Category talk:Egyptian deprecated inflection-table templates

, can these all be deleted? (And do we even have templates that can currently handle conjugating Egyptian verbs?) —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 06:53, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes, these can all be deleted; I orphaned them a while ago. They are all (1) very incomplete in terms of the conjugation paradigm, (2) made for Unicode hieroglyphs instead of transliterations, and (3) pretty inaccurate.
 * We do have templates that currently conjugate Egyptian verbs! — but not yet for every class of verb. I created these few templates for the most common classes but am unsure if I want to reorganize the table before I go ahead and create the rest. (Particularly, I’m thinking of moving the participles and relative forms to their own separate section, moving the verbal nouns to the top, possibly removing the personal endings section, and making the code more readable.)
 * Unfortunately, the Egyptian verbal system is still under great debate between proponents of the Standard Theory, the ‘Not-So-Standard’ Theory, and more radical ideas like Allen’s recent suggestion that gemination is derivational, not inflectional, and that all the forms can be collapsed into two. The terminology in the field for various verb forms is a mess, as every author invents new names for them (and one author’s ‘perfective’ is another’s ‘imperfective’!) The tables I made are mostly amenable to the Standard Theory, with various concessions to the ‘Not-So-Standard’, and largely drawing on Allen, Loprieno, and the Standard Theory for the terminology, but if Egyptological consensus changes, the tables might eventually need to change too. — Vorziblix (talk · contribs) 11:24, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I know those feelings of picking and choosing terminology and competing analyses with many of the languages I work on or speak. My knowledge of Egyptian conjugation is entirely from Allen's Middle Egyptian, but I assumed his couldn't be the only interpretation. It's best to write an appendix to document the way you're going about it, like Appendix:Egyptian verbs, that your templates can then link to. Incidentally, at least with the geminate ones, I reckon it would be a lot easier to use Lua so you didn't have to type in multiple parameters. Oh, and in the future, if you have deprecated templates whose function has been taken over by something else, tell me so they can be deleted! —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 17:22, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Right, I’ll get to work on an appendix. As far as verbs that geminate go, unfortunately using Lua wouldn’t necessarily cut down on the number of parameters; many classes of verb have a geminating and non-geminating subclass, so there would need to be a  parameter if the geminated stem parameter were removed (currently, leaving this stem parameter blank makes a verb take the non-geminating conjugation). Ultimately, though, it would be nice to use Lua to collapse most (or all) of the conjugations into one template, but my own knowledge of Lua is as yet rudimentary at best. Thanks for taking care of these templates! — Vorziblix (talk · contribs) 00:42, 17 September 2017 (UTC)