Category talk:Elementary Mandarin

RFM discussion: June 2012–April 2014
To Category:Elementary Mandarin. Surely the word 'Mandarin' means we don't also needs cmn. Also I don't think categories like Category:en:Elementary Mandarin would be valid. The others to be moved can be found in Category:Chinese by difficulty level. Mglovesfun (talk) 09:03, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
 * [[Image:Symbol support vote.svg|20px]] Support 19:12, 19 June 2012 (UTC)


 * [[Image:Symbol support vote.svg|20px]] Support This is already happening.
 * It applies to Category:Beginning Mandarin, Category:Intermediate Mandarin and Category:Advanced Mandarin. Also, current Mandarin topical categories need a lot of work. is fixing some of them. --Anatoli (обсудить/вклад) 06:49, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

RFM discussion: January–April 2014
We have two dueling sets of categories for the difficulty levels described in Appendix:HSK list of Mandarin words. There are the ones with no language codes, as produced by context templates (with the same names as the categories) that were migrated to Module:labels/data:
 * Category:Beginning Mandarin‎
 * Category:Elementary Mandarin
 * Category:Intermediate Mandarin
 * Category:Advanced Mandarin

And the ones that follow our topical category structure:


 * Category:cmn:Beginning Mandarin‎
 * Category:cmn:Beginning Mandarin‎ in simplified script‎
 * Category:cmn:Beginning Mandarin in traditional script‎‎
 * Category:cmn:Elementary Mandarin
 * Category:cmn:Elementary Mandarin in simplified script‎
 * Category:cmn:Elementary Mandarin in traditional script‎
 * Category:cmn:Intermediate Mandarin
 * Category:cmn:Intermediate Mandarin in simplified script‎
 * Category:cmn:Intermediate Mandarin in traditional script‎
 * Category:cmn:Advanced Mandarin
 * Category:cmn:Advanced Mandarin in simplified script‎
 * Category:cmn:Advanced Mandarin in traditional script‎

The first ones were among the leading members of the Wanted Categories page, presumably because no one was quite sure how to fit them into our category structure, so they were never created. A couple have now been created, but without categorization. We need to decide which ones to keep, and merge the others into them. This will require changing entries where the categories were added manually, and editing Module:labels/data if we decide to change the categories created by the context labels. Chuck Entz (talk) 17:43, 11 January 2014 (UTC)


 * I think the second set doesn't really make sense. No other language will ever have a category for "Beginning Mandarin", etc., and so the language code is extraneous. --WikiTiki89 17:47, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
 * They seem like a more natural fit with the context labels as far as subject matter is concerned, anyway. The topical categories were all added by hand, which will require more work: there at least a few thousand. Chuck Entz (talk) 18:04, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
 * These four categories (listed below) are all legitimate and correct Mandarin categories, any topical category with "in simplified script‎" and "in traditional script" should be changed by a bot, see my request with the related discussion and approval: Requests_for_moves,_mergers_and_splits
 * Correct HSK Mandarin categories:
 * Category:cmn:Beginning Mandarin‎
 * Category:cmn:Elementary Mandarin
 * Category:cmn:Intermediate Mandarin
 * Category:cmn:Advanced Mandarin
 * --Anatoli (обсудить/вклад) 23:49, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I support removing the language code from the name, and treating these as "language variety" categories like "British English". 23:55, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
 * You must have misunderstood. These are not varieties, they are frequency lists based on a popular language test, like Category:1000 English basic words but these have four incremental levels. --Anatoli (обсудить/вклад) 05:34, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I know, but for the purpose of our categories we can treat them like varieties, because of how their categories are named. Module:labels calls them "regional categories" but they don't really have to be regional. 13:31, 17 January 2014 (UTC)


 * I'm taking away my original comment, sorry for the mistake. The correct HSK Mandarin categories:
 * Category:Beginning Mandarin‎
 * Category:Elementary Mandarin
 * Category:Intermediate Mandarin
 * Category:Advanced Mandarin
 * --Anatoli (обсудить/вклад) 13:21, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

HSK categories: ✅. --Anatoli (обсудить/вклад) 00:58, 16 April 2014 (UTC)