Category talk:Proto-Western-Romance

Preservation of voiceless stops
Aragonese and Gascon dialects near the Pyrenees do not have voicing. Can this be an archaism from PWR? Kwékwlos (talk) 14:18, 29 March 2023 (UTC)


 * It certainly can be.
 * However, this is also possible (for all of the below, assume intervocalic position):
 * 1) /pp tt kk/ - /p t k/ - /b d ɡ/
 * 2) /pp tt kk/ - /p t k/ - /β ð ɣ/
 * 3) /pp tt kk/ - /b d ɡ/ - /β ð ɣ/
 * 4) /p t k/ - /b d ɡ/ - /β ð ɣ/ (Proto-Western-Romance)
 * Finally, in the Pyrenean zone, intervocalic /b d ɡ/ merge into degeminated /p t k/.
 * We know that original /pp tt kk/ and /p t k/ did eventually merge in Aragonese- the only novelty above is positing that the latter voiced prior to the merger.
 * It does assume a circular voicing-devoicing development, but it resolves a great deal of awkwardness in the broader Romance context. Nicodene (talk) 14:31, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

Leonese preservation of final -e
While most Western Romance dialects lose final -e after certain consonants, such as r, Leonese appears to have conserved final -e. Kwékwlos (talk) 02:34, 28 May 2024 (UTC)