Category talk:Words from Shakespeare

October 2010
Maybe to Category:Shakespeare derivations. Also, some of these terms are not words. --Felonia 12:45, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Not to mention removing the ones that aren't from Shakespeare. Benedict is from Classical Latin. Mglovesfun (talk) 12:49, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

September 2015
I'd prefer Category:Terms from Shakespeare. Or something better --Zo3rWer (talk) 14:36, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Support switching "words" to "terms", additionally support clearer naming such as Category:Terms coined by Shakespeare. --Tropylium (talk) 18:58, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Also support switching to something like Category:Terms coined by Shakespeare. Note that we also need to update Wikipedia Shakespeare's influence § Vocabulary. Enosh (talk) 11:51, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Support Category:Terms coined by Shakespeare. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 12:59, 19 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Support Category:Terms coined by William Shakespeare. — I.S.M.E.T.A. 11:58, 20 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Support Category:Terms coined by William Shakespeare, but is there a Category:Words first attested in Shakespeare too? —Pengo (talk) 01:49, 22 September 2015 (UTC)


 * In a lot of cases, the words are first attested in Shakespeare. The claim that he coined them is different... so I think something like Category:Terms first attested in Shakespeare would be more accurate. - -sche (discuss) 23:57, 26 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Support moving it to Category:Terms first attested in Shakespeare per -sche (I don't think we can distinguish those that he himself coined)., how do you feel about doing that instead? —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 07:55, 30 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Support moving it to Category:Terms first attested in Shakespeare rather than "coined". --Daniel Carrero (talk) 07:57, 30 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Support in this case. Maybe with English prefixed, not to be so ethnocentric and for consistency. Enosh (talk) 14:43, 30 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Support, though I'm not sure if specifying English is required. Suppose though we had similar categories for other authors who had written in multiple languages: would we want to have distinct categories like "English terms first attested in McShmoo" versus "Scots terms first attested in McSchmoo", or would a single "Terms first attested in McSchmoo" do for both? --Tropylium (talk) 18:10, 30 December 2015 (UTC)


 * I prefer using the language name for clarity and consistency with other categories. I wouldn't mind having Category:Chinese terms first attested in Romance of the Three Kingdoms and Category:Portuguese terms first attested in Guimarães Rosa. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 18:35, 30 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Support Category:English terms first attested in the works of William Shakespeare. — I.S.M.E.T.A. 15:32, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

The current category's text says:
 * This category includes English words and phrases coined by Shakespeare, or otherwise derived from his works.
 * Note that this is not “Words which are first attested in Shakespeare”, which may have existed earlier in speech, but words plausibly created by Shakespeare

...which is why I thought "coined" was more appropriate, and "attested" would be a separate category. I'm not fussed about the particular category name change. Just pointing that out. Pengo (talk) 21:38, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Oppose anything except current title and Category:Terms from Shakespeare: For one, my general opposition to needless moving and merging. For two, shorter title generally equals better title. Pur ple back pack 89   16:25, 8 January 2016 (UTC)
 * ✅ Ipadguy (talk) 12:38, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Ipadguy moved it to Category:Terms from Shakespeare, despite that not being supported by consensus as far as I can tell. This move was inappropriate, so I have deleted that page for now. —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 01:10, 18 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Nah, let's not bother actually. It stays. --Celui qui crée ébauches de football anglais (talk) 18:17, 13 May 2017 (UTC)


 * I've renamed this to English terms first attested in Shakespeare, per the discussion above about how these words were not necessarily coined by Shakespeare, and to include the language! I also removed the entry "Shakespeare" from the category! The last entry was what's done is done. - -sche (discuss) 19:48, 13 May 2017 (UTC)