Reconstruction talk:Gothic/𐍂𐌴𐌹𐌺𐌰𐍂𐌴𐌳𐍃

Are you sure the first element here is reiks, is there a source suggesting this etymology? I would expect ric- initially in Latinisations then, not recc- which also has unexplained gemination. (Wondering the same about ). — Mnemosientje (t · c) 09:39, 7 December 2018 (UTC)


 * After checking the reconstruction and the Latin form, I doubt my own reconstruction. I didn’t considered the germination a problem but even then the first element in the Latinized form would have been ric- instead of recc-. I suspect the correct reconstruction would have been either Raikkarēds or Rēkkarēds. Since I haven’t found any word containing either raikk- or rēkk- I can't tell what the first element means. I considered it would have meant king from either or  however neither have geminated k so I doubt it. 𐌷𐌻𐌿𐌳𐌰𐍅𐌹𐌲𐍃 𐌰𐌻𐌰𐍂𐌴𐌹𐌺𐌹𐌲𐌲𐍃 08:15, 8 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I think the main argument against the first element being reiks is that ric- is attested elsewhere to render it in Latinisations, as in Ricimer. The apparent gemination may just be a spelling irregularity it seems, as reca- is also attested. The lack of a Gothic i (why not Ric[c]a-?) to render Germanic *e is problematic if it is to be derived from or . I am not sure what to make of the first element either, and I can't easily find any satisfactory answer anywhere. Shall I remove the entry for now (and )? — Mnemosientje (t · c) 12:29, 8 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Yeah you can go ahead and remove both pages. I tried looking for a Proto-Indo-European root that may give me a clear answer, however so far I have found none. Since I’m not an expert on Proto-Indo-European I’ll wait until something show up that mighty shed some light on the matter. 𐌷𐌻𐌿𐌳𐌰𐍅𐌹𐌲𐍃 𐌰𐌻𐌰𐍂𐌴𐌹𐌺𐌹𐌲𐌲𐍃 12:52, 8 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Alright, I've removed them. I wonder if there's a recent dictionary of old Germanic given names & their derivations. There's Schönfeld's from 1911, but it is hopelessly outdated. — Mnemosientje (t · c) 13:11, 8 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Thanks! I’ve wanted to add more Germanic names as there seems to be so little in Wiktionary given the fact that we have many attest, although in Latin. I’ll try to add more, however, I have two problem, not knowing the elements of the name, such as Sisenand and Thorismund and inflection tables not working for name ending with .𐌷𐌻𐌿𐌳𐌰𐍅𐌹𐌲𐍃 𐌰𐌻𐌰𐍂𐌴𐌹𐌺𐌹𐌲𐌲𐍃 13:32, 8 December 2018 (UTC)


 * If you feel unconfident about your abilities in this case, it may be a better choice to only create entries for names you can find etymologies/reconstructions for in reliable, recent sources. There's a lot of speculation in Germanic onomastics as it is; reconstructing the original forms of Latinized names is a minefield and fraught with controversies and uncertainties. I would avoid creating reconstructed name entries based on original research as much as possible. — Mnemosientje (t · c) 14:18, 8 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Understood.𐌷𐌻𐌿𐌳𐌰𐍅𐌹𐌲𐍃 𐌰𐌻𐌰𐍂𐌴𐌹𐌺𐌹𐌲𐌲𐍃 14:24, 8 December 2018 (UTC)