Reconstruction talk:Latin/ieniperus

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What spelling is actually found in the Appendix Probi? Some propose inital i-, others with z-. Kwékwlos (talk) 21:31, 5 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Cited is the most recent palaeographical study I could find. I trust it over older sources copying from each other. Nicodene (talk) 21:46, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
 * That said, ziniperus is by no means a problematic spelling. Actually, if we interpret it as a literal /jɪˈnɪperʊs/ (with allophonic affrication) we find ourselves with a base-form that is just as good for explaining all the Romance outcomes as *ieniperus is. And without needing an asterisk.
 * It would be a bold move to just lemmatize it, but why not. First I'll go make sure there are no sneaky Insular Romance derivatives with /e/ in the first syllable (which would be the only thing, at this point, that would convince me to keep *ieniperus). Nicodene (talk) 22:07, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Right. But Sassarese and Gallurese are Italo-Western. Kwékwlos (talk) 22:10, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Very much with an Old Sardinian substratum from which they have inherited words such as manzanu. And clearly these forms here as well, as they do not look much like Tuscan. Nicodene (talk) 22:16, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
 * There does apparently exist a Nuorese gheniperu. Ah, well. Nicodene (talk) 22:57, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
 * But there is also ghiniperu. Kwékwlos (talk) 22:58, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
 * And? Doesn't change the preceding form. Nicodene (talk) 23:05, 5 April 2023 (UTC)