Reconstruction talk:Proto-Brythonic/llew

This article needs to be deleted. First of all, llew is the MODERN WELSH form of the word, not the Brittonic form (which would have been something like *lewu); secondly, as a Latin loan from Roman-era Brittonic, it dates to many, many centuries after the Proto-Brittonic period!

what is ? Is this the personal name Leugui from the Redon Cartulary? ShellfaceTheStrange (talk) 18:14, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
 * It's from R:cel:EPCW where he claims it's a compound word (proper noun?) for “lion” in Breton. 🤷 --Gowanw (talk) 20:30, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
 * I see. I think Koch's wordlist is generally reasonable, but it has some errors (which is explicable, since it seems unfinished and/or unedited). So far as I can find the only occurrence of in any stage of Breton is in the Redon Cartulary (so this is an Old Breton name, not a common noun). It must be Old Breton in any case, because intervocalic  would of course not be possible in Middle or Modern Breton spelling. I have not found any previous etymological analyses for this name, but it has been compared - I think correctly - with,  (approximately /ɬəwɨ/?) in the Book of Llandaf, which furthermore occurs in Middle Welsh as  (as a name) and importantly as an adjective . The y demonstrates that the original vowel cannot have been *e because this would not have become a schwa in this context; instead, a connection with  <  (>  in CA and T, per GPC) seems phonologically and semantically inviting. Alternatively for the name we could also invoke , which is certainly the source of  cited by Koch (, not ).
 * All this is to say that it seems unlikely that Koch is correct to infer that these names are derivatives of . ShellfaceTheStrange (talk) 22:04, 21 December 2021 (UTC)