Reconstruction talk:Proto-Germanic/sūz

Dutch has zeug and in dialects zog. Is that from a different stem because of the -g? If so what is the fao version doing here. It also has the -g. Jcwf (talk) 15:23, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
 * I've added a link to the form that is the ancestor of the Dutch word. The Faroese -gv is very different, it is a specific Faroese change that is also found in other words. 15:44, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
 * OK thanks! Jcwf (talk) 16:54, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

Forms
Kroonen gives the PIE paradigm as nom. , acc. , giving PGmc and (< ). He also mentions a "sporadic shift" of -w- to -g- between -u- and another high vowel, which gave with leveling. The root he states also gave Old Norse, giving Norwegian  and Elfdalian sugga, probably also Swedish  but he doesn't mention that one. Anglom (talk) 19:32, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I have read Kroonen's reconstruction as well; however, I don't know how to translate it into the modified Don Ringe orthography standard for wiktionary. The sequence /uw/ is supposed to be written as /ū/ as in *būaną (to dwell, reside), but how would I write the sequence /uwu/? Was this sequence even valid in Proto-Germanic phonology? If the sequence /owo/ earlier in the history of Proto-Germanic contracted to /ō/, then would the same thing happen to the sequence /uwu/ contracting it to /ū/? In the word for eyebrow, Don ringe has *brūwō. What does this say about how to write the accusative case of *sūz?Nayrb Rellimer (talk) 00:18, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
 * We shouldn't assume that the PIE form would have been inherited directly. There would almost certainly have been analogical levelling. Purely phonologically, the inherited accusative would be *sūn, in which no nasal vowel had been formed because it had only one syllable (compare ). But that would be an unusual situation so it would most likely have been levelled to *sų̄ or perhaps *sūwų. Still it's hard to say. —CodeCat 00:24, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
 * After reading Don Ringe's list of sound changes again and comparing them with Kroonen's suggestion of "sporadic change of w to g between high vowels," as a solution to the alternate noun *sugō, the change of w to g seems analogical rather than phonologically regular. Ringe does however mention a change of /gʷ/ to /w/ or /g/, but never a change of /w/ to /g/ or vice versa.Nayrb Rellimer (talk) 00:46, 19 August 2014 (UTC)