Reconstruction talk:Proto-Indo-European/-h₁yéti

Conflict with Pinault's law
This suffix is listed under ''8. Essiv'' in LIV. It is not without objections. In particular, it falls under the application of Pinault's rule for disappearance of *H before *y. Jasanoff addresses this issue in '' 'Stative' *-ē- revisited. Die Sprache 43(2): 127-170, 2004''. There are nonetheless examples for stative/iterative verbs, which cannot be explained via. For example: (AP C). Bezimenen (talk) 13:27, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

PS In this post, it is claimed that there is "a firm basis for reconstructing a PIE yod-extension of this stative suffixe, namely the essive *-h1ié- suffix lying behind the Balto-Slavic -jo verbs and the Indo-Iranian -ya- passives". Here is a link to PIE Essive and Fientive in Greek. Not sure if this suffices to add Greek under descendants. Bezimenen (talk) 13:34, 17 October 2019 (UTC)


 * PIE essive verbs are not widely supported, and as such, we do not reconstruct them here on en.Wikt.
 * The Latin and PG forms you list are built from PIE stative.
 * The BSL forms you reconstruct don't look to be productive, as as such, do not belong is a descendants list of productive suffixes.
 * -- 07:37, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
 * -- 07:37, 22 October 2019 (UTC)


 * It is mentioned in LIV, though. Furthermore, I don't reconstruct the pBSL forms. Specialists in the field do (with more experience them me and you). Next time, when you use "widely", "very", "totally", etc. please qualify what do you mean by that? You have a tendency to shoot bombastic claims and leave the audience to figure out where your confidence comes from. Bezimenen (talk) 08:30, 22 October 2019 (UTC)


 * It's personal attacks every time with you, . How about you keep to the discussion instead?
 * We're all aware that Rix supports essive verbs, but that doesn't mean other linguists do, and if you'll notice, no one at Leiden reconstructs them as such. Darden (1990) quite easily explains 🇨🇬 as being a secondary ě-stative on an original aorist. -- 16:57, 22 October 2019 (UTC)


 * I don't see where Darden explains the accent paradigm in Slavic. But whatever. From now on, I'm also on the "quite easily" train. Bezimenen (talk) 17:52, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
 * A secondary verb on an original zero-grade leading to a strange paradigm isn't some wild concept. -- 18:23, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
 * I concur that there is little motivation to reconstruct this verb. —*i̯óh₁n̥C[5] 19:48, 22 October 2019 (UTC)