Reconstruction talk:Proto-Japonic/asya

Likely mistaken reconstruction
doesn't differentiate between ⟨se₁⟩ and ⟨se₂⟩ -- there is only ⟨se⟩.

Exploring the ONCOJ hits for, the ones that are actually  and not for , where spelled phonetically, use , , or  for the ⟨se⟩. Notice the Middle Chinese phonetic reconstructions:, ,. Presumably the former two would be ⟨se₁⟩ and the latter one would be ⟨se₂⟩, but these are used to spell the same word. Even if we assume that there existed any 甲乙 distinction in the vowel for this /se/ phoneme, that distinction is either already lost by the time of the ' and ', or the two texts represent different dialects that diverged for this phoneme. I haven't read anything about dialectal differences between these two texts, so either the 甲乙 difference was already lost by the early 700s, or there wasn't any difference to begin with.

w:Proto-Japonic includes /e/ at the Proto level. I see no compelling reason to reconstruct this "sweat" term as anything other than *ase.

In all cases, it is difficult to see what would happen to the /w/ in source 🇨🇬, as this is maintained in some form or other in just about all the daughter languages. ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │Tala við mig 00:50, 23 February 2023 (UTC)