Reconstruction talk:Proto-Japonic/wopitə

Mistake?
JA sources do trace 🇨🇬 from earlier oputo, perhaps as a shift from opito. However, the initial o- is commonly traced to, ancient wo, not from woto- "youth" as in or. See the Daijisen entry at Kotobank, for instance.

Moreover, as a clear compound, this seems like a poor candidate for a reconstructed lemma entry.

, anyone I've missed, should this entry be moved / removed / otherwise dealt with? ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │Tala við mig 23:55, 3 June 2019 (UTC)
 * It should be *wo + *pitə, indeed. But I fail to see any reason why compound words are poor candidates for reconstructed lemmas as long as the cognates clearly indicate descent from a proto-term instead of being formed independently, e.g. . Anyway I'm repinging due to his username being misspelled. mellohi! (僕の乖離) 01:36, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Re: compounds, point taken. I may have gotten my wires crossed and was overthinking the idea of etyma.  ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │Tala við mig 18:30, 4 June 2019 (UTC)


 * : I did a survey of the . I find zero instances of をふと, the expected realization of the putative OJP descendant term.  There are instances of をひと instead, but none that align with modern 🇨🇬 -- all appear to be unrelated occurrences of を (often as a particle or as ) + various other things spelled as ひと (most commonly ).
 * The earliest I can find for おっと is 1220. See the KDJ entry here.
 * Meanwhile, をふと is traced to 898, but the text listed in the KDJ entry is younger, at 1113.
 * Both entries trace this to original form をひと. Is there any evidence for OJP form をふと?
 * FWIW, I find it more likely that the labial consonant, lenited form , potentially led to a later shift in vowel, as seen in other compounds like modern 🇨🇬. I think the Proto form would have to be pitə.  ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │Tala við mig 20:34, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I had suspected it since the beginning that the medial vowel in the compound was -i- that was contracted later (cf. contractions of itself in Ryukyuan). Moving the page very soon. mellohi! (僕の乖離) 17:54, 3 December 2019 (UTC)