Reconstruction talk:Proto-Slavic/mysľati

Dubious
How can this have ě when none of the descendants have it? —CodeCat 20:08, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

RFD discussion: February 2017–September 2022
Apparently descendants are not real. I don't see reason why this entry should exist. —Игорь Тълкачь (talk) 12:58, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Presumably to explain prefixed forms in daughter languages, no idea how to handle it properly though. Crom daba (talk) 05:14, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Author could create entry with prefix (for example, ). —Игорь Тълкачь (talk) 14:42, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

As far as i understand, is imperfective, so what is ? —Игорь Тълкачь (talk) 14:47, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
 * What ought we to do with this? Edit: Sorry if that ping directed you to the wrong section; there was an edit conflict. —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 20:13, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
 * If has no direct descendants, then we have to ask where the derived verbs that have it as a base came from. Could these derived verbs themselves be of Proto-Slavic origin? If so, then there should be a Proto-Slavic page for those, and the existence of  is only guaranteed for Pre-Slavic, not Proto-Slavic. If they can't be posited for PS, then is it possible/feasible that the languages created these  verbs independently? If so, then there's no merit for a PS page, but if not, then reconstructing  for Proto-Slavic seems warranted. —CodeCat 20:27, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Neither of the above are the case. -jati, producing Russian, is a common imperfectivizing prefix that is added to prefixed perfective verbs to form imperfectives. Hence *orzmysljati was formed directly from orzmysl(iti) + -jati, and similarly with *otъmysljati. This means there was never a *mysljati, and the entry should be deleted. Benwing2 (talk) 05:14, 12 May 2017 (UTC)
 * , i don't see reason why it's guaranteed for Pre-Slavic, unless *mysliti originally was perfective (so *mysljati is imperf.) but it's just assumption. At this moment, it's better to delete. —Игорь Тълкачь (talk) 09:10, 14 May 2017 (UTC)

Moved to RFDO. — Mnemosientje (t · c) 15:03, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete if 's reasoning is indeed correct. —Rua (mew) 17:24, 30 April 2019 (UTC)

RFD-deleted (noting that Benwing2 is in favour of deletion) This, that and the other (talk) 11:15, 26 September 2022 (UTC)