Reconstruction talk:Proto-West Germanic/īsajikilljā

īskachel
, are you sure MHG and MLG  are unrelated? Could they instead be from ? -- Sokkjō 05:02, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
 * , Well, is from īs ("ice") + kachel ("dish, tile, shard") from . And  is from îs ("ice") + kēgel ("spike, peg, cone") (< ). Do you see them being related ? If so, then how ? Leasnam (talk) 06:18, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Or, they could simply be from, with the *-ji- reshaped by , as seen in . -- Sokkjō 16:04, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I think >  (also 🇨🇬) makes sense; but the rest is wonky. Do we have a reconstruction for  yet ? Ahh, apparently not. Leasnam (talk) 16:12, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I created . The stress would have to be on ga in (for *ī́sagajíkil) for 🇨🇬 to be realised, which would be highly irregular, and it would likely cause i-mutation to 🇨🇬...so there are multiple difficulties. And of course  could not be related to this, unless it were a borrowing. Leasnam (talk) 17:17, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
 * That also crossed my mind, but was too lazy to look up outcomes. Either way,  with expected syncopation seems likely enough to produce MHG  and MLG . -- Sokkjō 17:15, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Mmmmmm, please see above (?). The ji would be a stressed syllable, so why would syncopation occur there ? Leasnam (talk) 17:18, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
 * We also know from, , etc. that combinations involving + [noun] meaning "icicle" were common if not still productive in Middle High German, so it's not unlikely for  to be a new formation. Leasnam (talk) 17:32, 7 August 2023 (UTC)