Reconstruction talk:Proto-West Germanic/ramm

ramdäsig
I've removed the descendant (aka ; compare 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬) because it's obvious that this is from  +,. This is why you cannot rely strictly on SOURCES alone. Sources "make up stuff" too. Leasnam (talk) 18:03, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

*ram(m)ēn, *ram(m)ōn
where are you moving to? -- Sokkjō 19:09, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
 * The Old Frisian doesn't belong, and I have edited the Old English etymology at . The only remaining descendant would be the, but I cannot find this anywhere. Also, I cannot find a that would appropriately fit in this descent. Can you please shed some light on these 2 terms ? Leasnam (talk) 19:39, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I agree that there appears to be some merged verbs here, but I think they should be commented out until they can be resolved to their proper entries, not deleted. If you have a look at the page, I added a source for the LG verb, which also illustrates the convergence.
 * What is your objection to the semantic shift of >, proposed by Köbler? -- Sokkjō 20:27, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I'm just not convinced it had the meaning of "strengthen" in the way we think of it today. I think meant "strong" in the sense of "overbearing, acrid, rank" so "strong" in a negative sense. Therefore  would mean something along the lines of "to cause (something) to be overbearing, make pungent or stinky", so the Old English  seems way off from this. Leasnam (talk) 22:14, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Regarding, I wasn't able to load the page in my browser, but I trust you and based on the update to the gloss it appears to be the same as in Wikiling  which would tie it to 🇨🇬, , from 🇨🇬, from 🇨🇬, so it could not, based on the MHG and OHG cognates, be from  or ; unless it were a verb that appears in Modern times with no connection to 🇨🇬 :( Leasnam (talk) 22:39, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
 * True, the original meaning in PG seems to have been along the lines of, which only came to specifically mean come Old Norse, while the Low German is a merger a denominal verb, and that of PWG . -- Sokkjō 01:04, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I just came across 🇨🇬 which makes 🇨🇬 possible :) I stand corrected. It's development or journey into Old English is still a mystery, I cannot puzzle out how it could have acquired this form, unless the attested form (remiġende) is a rare variant of a more normal unattested form like, which is possible. Leasnam (talk) 18:35, 6 January 2024 (UTC)