Talk:¤

If this is really called louse and sputnik, it should be mentioned at those entries. I couldn't find anything at a very brief glance on Google Books. Equinox 20:06, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

RFV discussion: September 2013–June 2014
This symbol was invented as a placeholder for the dollar sign in text encodings that had to be acceptable in non-dollar-using countries. It’s very nature means that it is unuseful. Has it ever been used (as opposed to merely being defined in glossaries and references)? —Michael Z. 2013-09-12 21:59 z 


 * I have a vague feeling that it was used in (i.e. as something that would be presented to the user in some situations &mdash; perhaps currency-related), but can't remember any details... Or maybe not: all I can find by searching is that that slot was sometimes used for the (then new and unassigned) euro sign. Equinox ◑ 01:18, 13 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Google and Bing refuse to search for it at all. http://blogs.msdn.com/b/michkap/archive/2007/03/15/1885864.aspx offers some hints about places where it's been used; maybe a 80s-era book on BASIC from Sweden or Russia might have it.--Prosfilaes (talk) 01:45, 13 September 2013 (UTC)


 * We can leave this on RfV for two months, since it resists searching.


 * The challenge is finding uses of this term (symbol), rather than merely mentions or definitions of it, since it is merely a placeholder. It might be used as a placeholder character for a different currency symbol in unpublished text, which would be difficult enough to cite, but I think it might be only a placeholder in the encoding tables, in which case it is probably not a term at all. Note that the cited terms lorem ipsum and etaoin shrdlu are names of placeholders – the names for this symbol are louse and sputnik, not ¤.


 * Don’t mistake text encoding or rendering errors for uses. If a writer was using a font that displayed a rouble, or yuan, or euro symbol, and expected his audience to see the same, that is the use of a particular code point, but not of this symbol. Also, uses in programming languages are not in any wt:CFI, and so do not count for inclusion in Wiktionary. —Michael Z. 2013-09-17 15:14 z 


 * If you have any citations that a writer used this, please show us. Otherwise, let's not speculate that a writer accidentally used this in absence of evidence.--Prosfilaes (talk) 22:21, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Does the symbol have a name? DCDuring TALK 13:05, 18 September 2013 (UTC)


 * It is the old IBM international currency sign. It is used in Java as a placeholder for the current currency symbol when formatting a number: —Stephen (Talk) 13:29, 18 September 2013 (UTC)


 * AFAIR, it's not "a placeholder for the dollar sign", because for the dollar sign one would use $. In some countries (ehmm, UK) & #24; was IIRC used for the national currency, but they switched to (which seems to link to Main Page, see Unsupported titles/Number sign). --80.114.178.7 00:48, 13 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Failed. — Ungoliant (falai) 02:49, 5 June 2014 (UTC)