Talk:ʾsplys


 * according to Andronikashvili 🇨🇬 also means stadium(stadia? the unit of measure), ditto for Arameic, although I didn't find the form. I'm checking Hebrew wiktionary with google translate and it looks like that sense really exists. Also it looks like I created the talk page on the wrong page: this was meant for 🇨🇬. :/ კვარია (talk) 21:54, 18 January 2022 (UTC)


 * It is found inside the Aramaic phrase byt rysˀ, but I don't know whether it preserves the Iranian simplex or if it was back-formed within Aramaic from asp-rēs. Vahag (talk) 22:56, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
 * documents both the course-measure 🇨🇬 and 🇨🇬,, indeed the latter only within the phrase but the former also without. But as the meaning of an “eyelid” (otherwise in Aramaic , so here you have the Hebraism) is of unknown origin, it is imaginable to be of the same origin. Fay Freak (talk) 11:58, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
 * That still leaves the question if those are inner-Semitic developments or reflect a lost Iranian noun. Vahag (talk) 13:16, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Inner-Semitic development of what? Only the question where the sense of an eyelid developed would be open unless found in Iranian, as you have shown the simplex in Kurdish. Semitic clipping a longer borrowing to then use it in a particular meaning, that basic, is never likely.


 * If I stick my neck out then I also wonder whether the derivation 🇨🇬, is found metathesized in the now usual Arabic word for “eyelash” not mentioned in classical dictionaries, while ,  which are found are inner-Arabic derivatives (usual pattern for pathological excrescences, like  and ), and  and  are denominal, and in the now normal word for “rheum, sleep in the eyes”  of the same disease derivation type (also the verbal noun for any  verb, here ) with the base word not found anymore in Arabic—basically in the Arabic as in Hebrew case a course covering the eyes.  is instead augmented from native , confer  (both in Bedouinic plant names,  and ). Fay Freak (talk) 13:56, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I meant Semitic borrowing asprēs "horse racetrack" in whole (attested in Syriac), then back-forming rēs "racetrack" beside other words with asp- "horse". Armenian does that kind of stuff all the time․ Compare . The simplexes I found for refer to "spun cord / thread", not "racetrack". As for the Semitic "eyelash / eyelid" words, what you propose sounds risky, but I know very little about Semitic. Its word-formation patterns are incomprehensible to me. But note 🇨🇬 beside 🇨🇬, if related to each other. Vahag (talk) 14:35, 19 January 2022 (UTC)