Talk:αρbε̰ρ

RFD discussion: May 2019–March 2022
Supposedly Albanian, but Index:Albanian implies, and the Wikipedia article on the language says it only uses Roman letters. SemperBlotto (talk) 16:04, 30 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Move to RFV. Fytcha (talk) 00:43, 17 December 2021 (UTC)

During the Ottoman empire several scripts were used to write in Arbërisht: latin, greek, arabic, etc. Arbërisht (αρbε̰ρίσ̈τ) is still written in the greek Alphabet, but only by an minority group living in Greeve (called 'Arvanites' in Greek). Arbëreshë living in Italy use the latin Alphabet, same goes for modern Albanian. Arbërisht is Old Albanian. Also "Arbërisht" (the native term) is called "Arvanitika" in greek tongue. Arvanitika is an endagered language. I don't quite get why my entry should be deleted. Here's the Αρβανιτικα' / Αρbε̰ρισ̈τ - Alphabet (greek and latin script) + Standatd Albanian Orthography.
 * latin/greek/standardAlb. | IPA
 * A a / Α α / A a |[a~ɑ]
 * B b / Ƃ ƅ / B b | [b]
 * C c / ΤΣ τσ / C c | [ts]
 * Ç ç / ΤΣ̈ τσ̈ / Ç ç | [ʧ]
 * D d / D d / D d | [d]
 * Dh dh / Δ δ / Dh dh | [ð]
 * E e / Ε ε / E e | [e ~ ɛ]
 * Ë ë / Ε̱ ε̱ / Ë ë | [ə~ʊ̣]
 * F f / Φ φ / F f | [f]
 * G g / Γ γ / G g | [g]
 * Gj gj / Γj γj / (g) | [gʲ]
 * --- / --- / Gj gj | [ɟ]
 * H h / Χ χ / --- | [x]
 * --- / --- / H h | [h]
 * Hj hj / Χ̇ χ̇ / --- | [xʲ]
 * I i / Ι ι / I i | [i]
 * J j / J j / J j | [j]
 * K k / Κ κ / K k | [k]
 * L l / Λ λ / L l | [l]
 * LJ lj / Λ̇ λ̇ / L l | [ʎ]
 * Ll ll / ΛΛ λλ / --- | [ɣ]
 * --- / --- / Ll ll | [ɫ]
 * M m / Μ μ / M m | [m]
 * N n / Ν ν / N n | [n]
 * ǋ ǌ / Ν̇ ν̇ / Nj nj | [ɲ]
 * O o / Ο ο / O o | [ɔ]
 * P p / Π π / P p | [p]
 * Q q / Κ̇ κ̇ / (kj) | [kj]
 * --- / --- / Q q | [c]
 * R r / Ρ ρ / R r | [ɾ]
 * Rr rr / Ρ̇ ρ̇ / Rr rr | [r(ˑ)]
 * S s / Σ σ / S s | [s]
 * Sh sh / Σ̈ σ̈ / Sh sh | [ʃ]
 * T t / Τ τ / T t | [t]
 * Th th / Θ θ / Th th | [θ]
 * U u / Ȣ ȣ / U u | [u]
 * V v / Β β / V v | [v]
 * X x / DΣ dσ / X x | [dz]
 * Xh xh / DΣ̈ dσ̈ / Xh xh | [ʤ]
 * Y y / Υ υ / Y y | [y]
 * Z z / Ζ ζ / Z z | [z]
 * Zh zh / Ż ζ̇ / Zh zh | [ʒ]

IMIPER (talk) 16:14, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Macrolanguage: Albanian (sqi), code sets: 639-2/T, 639-3
 * Identifier | Reference n. | Code Sets
 * aat | Arvanitika Albanian| 639-3


 * In the entry αρbε̰ρ and the text above (Αρbε̰ρισ̈τ) I see a tilde below the ε, but in the table above the diacritic is a macron below. Is there a (formal or de facto) authority for the orthography of Arbërisht written in the Greek alphabet? In this gif from a defunct web site I also see a ligature Ȣ ȣ not represented in the above table. --Lambiam 12:07, 1 June 2019 (UTC)
 * ȣ is there under U.--Prosfilaes (talk) 16:53, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

Sent to RFV Thadh (talk) 23:35, 17 March 2022 (UTC)