Talk:γέννα

Greek
By ISO it's Classical Greek (grc), Medieval Greek (grc too), both types of New Greek (el), that is Medieval and Greek merged into one (grc). ( was incorrect as www-01.sil.org/iso639-3/documentation.asp?id=grc proofs.) Thus would be correct. If Wiktionary treats Medieval as a separate lang (wiktionary non-ISO code: gkm), than the Medieval part doesn't belong beneath ==Ancient Greek== and but into an own lang section like ==Medieval Greek==. Considering that Category:Medieval Greek lemmas/Category:Mediaeval Greek lemmas, Category:Middle Greek lemmas, Category:Byzantine Greek lemmas don't exists and that doesn't work, it seems more likely that Medieval and Greek are merged into one at Wiktionary too (grc, Category:Ancient Greek lemmas), or that Medieval Greek isn't even supported. That is, should indeed be correct. That doesn't work. But adding the LSJ-lemma like doesn't work either... Comparing for example Sun/sun, Hell/hell, it might be more correct to have it as Γέννα which could be mentioned beneath "Derived terms" or "See also". That belongs into the head or inflection section. If it's intended to contrast two different nouns like ἡ γέννᾱ, τῆς γέννᾱς (syn. of γένος) and ἡ γέννᾰ, τῆς γέννης (Medieval Greek), there should be two noun sections. But LSJ's "γένν-ᾰ Emp.17.27, 22.9, A.Pr.853 (but γέννᾱ in lyr. passages of E., as Hec.159), ης, ἡ, ης, ἡ:—poet. for γένος" and DGE's "γέννα -ης, ἡ [poét. gen. -ας ...] ..." imply, that both exist as synonym of. If it's intended to separate inflected forms (only ἡ γέννᾱ, τῆς γέννᾱς and ἡ γέννᾰ, τῆς γέννης, but no ἡ γέννᾱ, τῆς γέννης or ἡ γέννᾰ, τῆς γέννᾱς), then both forms should be given. But I fear, wiktionary doesn't support a proper Greek header with a differentiation of forms and instead uses misleading headers and correcting inflection sections. (a) Should that rather be an entry γέννα της σελήνης (idiomatic non-SOP expression)? (b) Is it really "γέννα της σελήνης", with της as in young modern Greek and not τῆς as in Greek and traditional modern Greek? LSJ has another meaning before it: "3 creation, creature, PMag.Leid.V.7.14. | 4 personified, Creative Force, ib. W.5.3." IMHO, the 3rd is needed to understand the "personified". -84.161.7.249 04:49, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
 * 1 " Synonym: τὰ Χριστούγεννα "
 * 2 " "
 * 3 "τὰ Γέννα • (génnā) [...]  |head=Γέννα|n-p|second}} separate page? -->
 * 4 " : ἡ γέννᾱ, τῆς γέννᾱς "
 * 5  “γέννα της σελήνης”
 * 6  

response
84! You are here! Thank you for all this. (need to read it more carefully) You flatter me with notes intended for more learned hellenists, which I am not (I am just a native speaker, otherwise not equipped to be in here). Sorry for putting numbers at your comments (I needed them, to follow you)
 * 5: expression, yess yes, ok. (I just hate RED links) And since I am not allowed to make a Medieval page, I will not make a page for it. But I corrected it.
 * 6. Creative Force: I thought it was some deity.
 * 2. LSJ: Our good User:Erutuon has corrected this too (as he corrects many of my mistakes)
 * 3.τα Γέννα. YES, again it must get its own page. But it is Medieval only, so I will not do it.
 * 1. syn: I CONFESS: I just hate the link to a Semantic relations page, apparently intended for editors, and not for our readers. I need to read your notes here more carefully. But I know this: the ancients did not have Christmas...
 * 4. I need to understand more. For a modern greek η γέννα, της γέννας is the usual. For ancients... I have no opinion.

Medieval words, or sense of words: Αχχχχ. I stumble on this problem, again and again. I am not allowed to make a separate section like here at ζεῦγος 2018.03.18.. Thank you for everything 84! sarri.greek (talk) 05:59, 3 April 2018 (UTC)