Talk:μάθημα

Shouldn't the Ancient Greek definition "astrology" be merged into "the mathematical sciences in particular: arithmetic, geometry, astronomy and astrology, harmonic"? Having them separate looks anachronistic and I guess the split originates from the 19th-century LS. (Also, I reckon "harmonic" should be "harmonics".) ←₰-→ Lingo Bingo Dingo (talk)  10:38, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Maybe, I haven't got a strong opinion on this. Your call. PUC – 22:16, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Support. The definitions should describe the concepts actually in the minds of the speakers and not make distinctions they didn't make. If the definition needs to clarify that they considered astrology mathematical but we don't, in some fashion or another, that's fine. — Eru·tuon 22:35, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
 * I think a usage note should be able to clarify that, if needed. ←₰-→ Lingo Bingo Dingo (talk)  10:42, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Then they should not use “mathematical” in the definition. It is unclear what that means, especially since it is basically the defined term used as the defining term. Also, what is “harmonic” for a science? Probably we miss a sense at the English page. Fay Freak (talk) 00:47, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
 * In the context of the history of science, these disciplines are often called mathematics or in historical usage mathematical sciences, as opposed to subjects that were considered to belong to natural philosophy or medicine. I think "harmonic" should be . ←₰-→ Lingo Bingo Dingo (talk)  10:42, 3 August 2021 (UTC)