Talk:Львôвъ

RFC discussion: August–September 2017
I believe this uses the wrong "ô". DTLHS (talk) 02:47, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Moved to correct spelling. --WikiTiki89 17:17, 11 September 2017 (UTC)

RFV discussion: August–September 2017
It's about a spelling of the Ukrainian city of Lviv (aka Lvov, Lwów, Lemberg).

I think it's simply a wrong spelling. Modern Ukrainian:, genitive: Львівъ, modern Russian: , genitive:. Pre-reform spellings in the nominative case, Ukrainian: (should be transliterated as "Lʹviv", ъ has no sound), Russian:. Polish spelling:, genitive:. --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 08:45, 21 August 2017 (UTC)
 * So, the form is a pre-reform (1918) Russian spelling (also Old Church Slavonic and Old East Slavic) and ô (a Roman) letter), not used in Ukrainian or Russian and I don't think there is a Cyrillic letter with a similar diacritic. Please note that the accented Cyrillic "о́" is not part of the title in inflected forms (i.e. Льво́ва links to Львова). --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 08:50, 21 August 2017 (UTC)
 * It is the Maksimovich spelling. 178.49.152.66 03:58, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Example of usage: [] 178.49.152.66 04:01, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I am not sure how Ivan Franko's works can be used whose first works were in Surzhik (mixture of Russian and Ukrainian) or a mixture of Ukrainian and Polish, not only lexical bur orthographic and grammatical. --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 06:40, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I think it also need some analysis whether Ivan Franko's 1884 "Boa Constrictor" is actually in Ukrainian, what type of Ukrainian or perhaps it's Ruthenian (Rusyn), not Ukrainian at all. I am not anti-Ukrainian at all but only a short glance at his prose and poems makes me doubt what language he wrote in but he was supposedly fluent in many Slavic languages. --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 06:49, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
 * The anon is right. In pre-reform Ukrainian orthography, the "о̂" was used by some people to indicate an "о" that is pronounced "і" (the "і" itself was used as a variant of "и" after vowels, and so was actually pronounced the same as "ы"). Google Books is full of examples: И я пивъ бы бо̂лше и бо̂льше, а при то̂мъ, подо̂бно якъ той камѣнь. --WikiTiki89 15:45, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
 * And regarding the context label saying "pre-1990", see this discussion. --WikiTiki89 15:50, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I agree that calling it "pre-1990" is misleading if it was hardly used after 1895 and not at all used after 1935. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 18:13, 11 September 2017 (UTC)


 * For some reason, this spelling gets scanned in Google Books as "Львóвъ" (i.e. with a Latin ó), so searching for, turns up a lot of results. I think we can say this is verified. --WikiTiki89 17:11, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Also, moved to the correct spelling: Льво̂въ. --WikiTiki89 17:14, 11 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Thanks, glad it's resolved. --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 22:18, 11 September 2017 (UTC)