Talk:возбуждённый

Another word claimed by Zaliznyak to have two different short declensions: b(2) (e.g. возвуждён возбуждена́) when referring to человек or толпа or when a participle, a(1) (e.g. возвуждён возбуждённа) when referring to речь or состояние. Is there a meaning difference here? Is Zaliznyak right here? ruwikt disagrees, saying the adjective is a(1) and the participle is b(2). Benwing2 (talk) 02:17, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I'd make adjectives to use both возбуждена́ and возбуждённа - b(2) and a(2) and participles just b(2). --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 02:22, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
 * (edit conflict) BTW Zaliznyak claims many other such words have a similar split, e.g.
 * принуждённый: b(2) when "что-л. делать" or participle, a(1) when "смех, мане́ры etc."
 * вы́нужденный: а(2) (вы́нужден вы́нуждена) when "что-л. делать" or participle, a(1) (вы́нужден вы́нужденна) when "посту́пок, призна́ние"
 * искажённый: b(2) when "зло́бой etc. — о лице" or participle, a(1) when "смысл etc."
 * обнажённый: b(2) when "нагой; лишенный листвы", a(1) when "поро́к etc."
 * etc.
 * Can you help translate and are these differences real? Benwing2 (talk) 02:34, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
 * In regard to возбуждённый, is there a meaning difference between the two different short adjective declensions, like Zaliznyak says, or are they interchangeable? Benwing2 (talk) 02:35, 10 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Which page(s) is it on in Zaliznyak? I will need to read a bit more on this and do some research. It's not so straightforward. --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 04:06, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
 * p. 382. See also the comments on p. 77 for §8, §9. Benwing2 (talk) 04:12, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
 * BTW §8 says that words under this header have b(2) as participles, otherwise a(1). §9 says words under this header have a(2) as participles, otherwise a(1). Benwing2 (talk) 04:16, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks. (I've fixed your spelling of "искажённый", I hope you don't mind). I'll get back to you on this. --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 04:19, 10 February 2016 (UTC)