Talk:добыться

RFD discussion: June–July 2018
These are pure passives and hence SOP. I can't find any definitions in any dictionaries other than as passives. Benwing2 (talk) 21:35, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Benwing2 (talk) 21:35, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Another such pair:, . Maybe these should instead be converted into non-lemma forms? Benwing2 (talk) 21:57, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
 * : No, I don't think we should delete reflexive passive verbs, they are considered words in Russian, included in dictionaries and are spelled . Besides, they are not SoP at all - is a suffix, not a separate word in Russian. Keep all. It was discussed elsewhere. --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 02:51, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
 * What I mean is that these are properly non-lemma forms and are entirely predictable, much like participles -- every transitive verb can form a passive in -ся/-сь. So IMO passives like this should be listed as non-lemma forms (verb forms rather than verbs). Benwing2 (talk) 03:40, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
 * : Yes, they are predictable but as for non-lemma, not sure. This is then not an RFD discussion. --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 03:50, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Kept. --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 06:38, 19 July 2018 (UTC)