Talk:получите

It's not the best result - mixed pronunciation for different forms or maybe it's better without the pronunciations? --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 07:24, 5 January 2016 (UTC)


 * спросите is better [NOTE: This was before I redid that page to have two etymologies --Benwing2]. "Related terms" and other fluff is not necessary at all for inflected forms (if there are no lemmas with the same spelling). --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 07:26, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure what the best solution is. I propose two possibilities:
 * Under "Etymology 1" and "Etymology 2". I've formatted спросите that way. This is what my module automatically does (or did, I'm in the process of changing it). That keeps the pronunciations nicely separate, but it seems a bit strange to have two verb forms for the same verb listed under the same etymology.
 * The alternative is to do what's done here -- put both entries under one etymology and have a combined pronunciation at the top, maybe with the two pronunciations indicated as here, with the two different forms next to them. Which do you think is better? Or do you have other suggestions?
 * BTW:
 * I do think we need pronunciations for each term. спросите may look better because it currently has no pronunciations, but we need them.
 * I'd like to avoid using "Pronunciation 1" and "Pronunciation 2" or "Noun 1" and "Noun 2" headers, and I've been eliminating them when I find them, since they aren't consistent with the way that other pages format things and they make all sorts of automated work a lot more difficult. Benwing2 (talk) 07:58, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
 * You can do L3 Pronunciation, L4 Verb twice, one L2 Etymology at the very top if necessary. --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 08:02, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Etymology is at L3. It sounds like you're proposing the equivalent of Pronunciation 1, Pronunciation 2, which I'd like to avoid. We should limit the possible ways of structuring entries; it's hard enough to work with them as is. I'm going to stick with the получите format unless you like the спросите format better, in which case I'll use that. Benwing2 (talk) 08:22, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
 * If rearranging seems too complicated, спросите is better. I never insisted on pronunciations for inflected forms. You can still do them when you have just one pronunciation or other simple cases.--Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 08:27, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
 * What do you mean when you say "rearranging seems too complicated"? I can do either the получите or спросите (multiple etym) forms without problem, and arrange pronunciations for them both. I don't like having a new structure like Pronunciation N because it's additional work in other bots e.g. the one that adds pronunciation; it's less of an issue for this bot that creates inflected forms. Benwing2 (talk) 08:53, 5 January 2016 (UTC)

What I meant is this, a correct way to format entries in such situations:

Verb


--Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 09:54, 5 January 2016 (UTC)


 * I like the way it is currently done (i.e. in the same pron section, with labels indicating which headword it applies to). This is the same thing that we do for Hebrew and other languages I've worked with that have this problem. --WikiTiki89 15:32, 5 January 2016 (UTC)

Any comments? Benwing2 (talk) 17:56, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I won't create any hurdles if you prefer to do it this way. --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 19:33, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
 * OK, I may well do that; I already have the code for most of it written. Benwing2 (talk) 19:34, 5 January 2016 (UTC)