Talk:поступиться

I'm having difficulty seeing the relationship between and. Even more difficult is the relationship between and. Another difficult one is vs. . Would the native speakers say in these cases that the reflexive variant can be analyzed as active variant + -ся, or is something else going on? Benwing2 (talk) 03:25, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
 * : The easiest one seems vs. . You can link it to the 2nd sense of отчита́ть - "to finish reading, e.g. out loud a report". отчитаться in this case is just an intransitive form of it.
 * Perhaps, is closer to  in this case - something like "to yield one's principles".
 * must have had a lot of other meanings in the Old Russian or OCS. Compare with 🇨🇬. Perhaps other Slavic cognates need to be checked as well. It's also related to.
 * Just my attempt, not sure if it helps. The relationship between the main verbs and the -ся-verbs seems quite loose, indeed. ---Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 04:50, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
 * -- : current meaning is late (judging by СРЯ 11-17 and МдСДРЯпПП). is related to  (= об- + жаловать).—Игорь Тълкачь (talk) 09:04, 14 November 2018 (UTC)