Talk:псакинг

Is there any proof that this word came from English psaking? I think more suitable etymology is Псаки + -ing. — Игорь Телкачь 17:11, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

RFV discussion: June–November 2014
The entry appears to be a Russian protologism. In the Italian Wiktionary was cancelled after a community decision. As an additional information, the same page was created on the same day, 10th of June, in different wiktionaries. --Diuturno (talk) 12:44, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Speedy. No meaningful definition is given. --WikiTiki89 13:11, 20 June 2014 (UTC)


 * It’s a foreign word (Russian), so it’s not supposed to be a definition, it gives a translation. The bigger question is, does the English word psaking meet WT:CFI. —Stephen (Talk) 15:37, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Well in that case, no meaningful translation is given. --WikiTiki89 17:33, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
 * It might... sort of. I found the word psak in a Jewish discussion forum on Usenet as a term for a Halachic ruling, and people were making a verb out of it to refer to the making of such a ruling. On the other hand, there's psak, created by a Russian IP a couple of days ago with a completely different definition, which doesn't seem to be attestable- though there are thousands of hits that I haven't checked. It's impossible to tell which meaning is intended. Chuck Entz (talk) 16:45, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
 * While it's probably a hoax... if it's only probably we should allow it the full 30 days. Renard Migrant (talk) 10:38, 21 June 2014 (UTC)


 * psaking (the p is silent) is taken from Jennifer Psaki, the former spokesperson for the U.S. Department of State. psaking is supposed to mean something like defending the indefensible, and in an uninformed, confused, comical way. The Russian media quickly zeroed in on her for her inane prattle. Russia Today claimed the Russians liked to make fun of her because of the comic relief she provided. —Stephen (Talk) 10:56, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Russian is a neologism. It's common on the web, plenty of definitions too, is included in some online dictionaries but no books with the term yet. --Anatoli (обсудить/вклад) 11:03, 21 June 2014 (UTC)


 * finds nothing. This seems like a good candidate for speedy RFV failed as obviously unattested. Anyone who claims the quotations exist may still place them to Citations:псакинг. --Dan Polansky (talk) 19:43, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
 * It may be a neologism so, obviously, there won't be any old use of it. Since it seems currently quite common, I added, which should be reviewed after one year has passed. (I should state again that I am neutral on the use of the word and not supporting those who created the term.) --Anatoli (обсудить/вклад) 04:59, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * It still needs a better definition, because no one can be expected to know what "psaking" is and we have no English entry for it. --WikiTiki89 05:17, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I oppose hot word on this. At least, quotations that meet WT:ATTEST other than spanning one year have to be added; if the proponents of hot word criteria even want to relax durably archived media requirement, then they have to provide at least some quotations that convey meaning, and argue why the sources of these quotations are good enough for hot word. --Dan Polansky (talk) 18:24, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Why are you opposing? It is used in blogs and news articles, even if it's new and quite silly, IMHO. Some links - псакинг in Google News. I'm not going to bust my balls over this word but I may add some links to blogs or news articles. "Pravda" and "Radio Liberty" articles are definitely going to be archived. It's low on my priority list but I might add a better definition, usexes and links later. (Remind me if I forget). --Anatoli (обсудить/вклад) 03:21, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Hot words are meant to be words that have such a large and widespread usage that they are unlikely to die out in the next year. This does not seem like the type of thing people will still remember next year. (Plus I still don't know what it means because no one has bothered to enter a proper definition.) --WikiTiki89 17:18, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Re: "Hot words are meant to be words that have such a large and widespread". No-one can make such guesses, until the time has passed. It is clear that the term has already gained certain popularity, due to Kremlin massive propaganda and the war of words between Russian and the West and odious Dmitry Kisselyov being the leader of the Russian media. I could add the definition and other things but I completely lost interest after watching Что такое "Псакинг"? (Psaking). If anyone deletes it, I won't object. --Anatoli (обсудить/вклад) 09:43, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

RFV failed. No citations have been provided at all, so I think this entry cannot be justified even as a "hot word". I will take the occasion to express the wish for the criteria for "hot words" to be laid out somewhere explicitly. — Keφr 18:18, 19 November 2014 (UTC)