Talk:случайное число

случайное число
As above. --WikiTiki89 13:58, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep (no surprise). Ƿidsiþ 13:59, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Note that Russian dictionaries do not have this term. Based on these results, only the Russian Oxford Dictionary of Psychology and the Russian Wikipedia have it. --WikiTiki89 14:07, 24 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep as a translation of the English term, for which there will almost certainly be no consensus to delete. bd2412 T 14:18, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
 * This phrase can be linked as if the entry is deleted. Also, I dislike this "I am sure it will be my way" attitude. For the record, delete. — Keφr 15:09, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm just stating the facts. Most of the editors who usually participate in these discussions have weighed in, and there is nothing remotely resembling a consensus for deletion. Nevertheless, I don't see why we would consider deleting a translation of term before the discussion on the term itself has concluded. bd2412 T 15:49, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete. — Ungoliant (falai) 15:06, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
 * For which definitions is it a translation? All, some, only &lit? DCDuring TALK 17:31, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
 * All I think, although I have not systematically gone through every definition of "random" just to make sure that it works. --WikiTiki89 17:39, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I don't know enough Russian to know whether this is SOP. I still maintain to delete random number, but have no idea about this term. I'm surprised to see so many opiners here, actually. &#x200b;—msh210℠ (talk) 19:14, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Isn't it assumed that if an English word fails, all translations automatically fail as well? -- Liliana • 20:51, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
 * No. If we decided in any event were SOP — I'm not saying we should — that would not mean בין כך (literally "between thus") would be SOP also. But perhaps you mean "all translations that are also word-for-word translations automatically fail". Still no (though this time I can't think of a good example off the top of my head): that a phrase is SOP in one language doesn't imply its counterpart is SOP is another. &#x200b;—msh210℠ (talk) 19:12, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

Keep. If someone is misled by "Russian dictionaries do not have this term", ABBYY Lingvo also has it. Here's a mirror случайное число@Yandex (specifically Русско-английский индекс к Англо-русскому словарю по вычислительной технике и программированию) --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 20:59, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Sorry, what I meant was Russian-Russian dictionaries. --WikiTiki89 02:04, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
 * It's OK. Russian-FL are also dictionaries. The term is heavily used my mathematicians, IT specialists, not just statisticians. also merits an entry, so does pseudorandom number, which is not that intuititive. --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 02:24, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
 * How is it not intuitive? pseudorandom + number, псевдослучайное + число --WikiTiki89 10:50, 25 July 2014 (UTC)


 * RFD kept as no consensus for deletion. Pro keeping: Ƿidsiþ, bd2412, Anatoli T.; pro deletion: WikiTiki89, Keφr, Ungoliant. See also (later at Talk:random number), which ended up as no consensus for deletion with more than 11 participants. --Dan Polansky (talk) 08:41, 10 August 2014 (UTC)