Talk:шума

Bulgarian шубра̀к Oghuric, and шу̀ма?
Isn’t this шума in Bulgarian, Macedonian and Serbo-Croatian the same as the 🇨🇬 that you have explained as Turkic? The etymologies dictionaries find the word mysterious,  ascribes it to Illyrian-Thracian. Amongst this group with all the other words like, , , , , etc. there might an Avar or Bolghar word. Hardly however it is the word for “noise”. Fay Freak (talk) 23:22, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't say that and  are related. In fact, there is an autonomous word, which is distinct from . I gave  as Oghuric (in Bulgarian literature it is often call "proto-Bulghar") following the Bulgarian version of Wiktionary. Unfortunately, the Bulgarian Etymological Dictionary has not reach Ш, so I cannot tell you what is the official standpoint which linguists take on this matter.  Bezimenen (talk) 08:36, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Can you give me a link to Skok etymology. It's good to add it as an alternative opinion for the etymology of 🇨🇬. Bezimenen (talk) 08:47, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Aye I can. By the way I also just noticed it would make sense if you set-up an e-mail in your account; people might send you more. Fay Freak (talk) 17:13, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
 * This source only classifies as Illyrian-Thracian. It does not say anything about 🇨🇬. Bezimenen (talk) 17:31, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
 * I did not mean or say it either. I said “The etymologies dictionaries find the word mysterious, ascribes it to Illyrian-Thracian.” Шума. Fay Freak (talk) 17:33, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I figured. I misunderstood what you referred to. I already added the reference to Skok under the Serbo-Croatian term. Bezimenen (talk) 17:41, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
 * In principle, Bulgarian preserves a small core of Oghuric/proto-Turkic terms, most of which have been reshaped to fit the Slavic morphology. For example, the word for hue; (painting) stroke, notch is derived from . It is not unprecedented that a Turkic word is used interchangeably with native Slavic words. Bezimenen (talk) 17:53, 10 October 2019 (UTC)