Talk:աղանձեմ

Kartvelian borrowing
, you removed from descendants saying it is an inner-Georgian formation from. I now suspect that together with  is a Kartvelian borrowing. The PIE etymology is irregular. Please check your literature if a native origin has been proposed for words. Also ping. Vahag (talk) 20:00, 29 November 2022 (UTC)


 * It seems like the common-Kartvelian root for this meaning was . As for this, Čuxua connected ლანძ- with which seems to fit, though Fähnrich didn't like that etymology, so it's possible  is borrowed from some other source (and from Georgian into Mingrelian and Laz?). There was yet another proposal for this, which I don't remember who made. კვარია (talk) 06:58, 30 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Honestly, if somehow landzv-av-s happened to lose the root -v- it could be easily derived from landzv-i, and I'm inclined to believe it since root -v- and syncoped thematic suffix -v- do merge as ts'v-av-s => ts'v-a (Although in these cases root -v- loss I think is not really usual?). As for the borrowing, considering the initial vowel ա- it's definitely not insensible that Armenian was somehow borrowed from Georgian. Although then we have the thematic suffix a- which was agh- in old Georgian, so I ??? that really... Another consideration is a later backformation taking a- as a preverb - Georgian's seem to love patterns (see ). Also , how would landz(v)- connect with ruj-? -Solarkoid (talk) 16:34, 30 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Armenian adds and  prothetic vowels to words starting with,  and , so we don't have to assume it is the Georgian preverb.
 * I'm also thinking about deriving from Kartvelian, with a participial suffix . Vahag (talk) 17:48, 30 November 2022 (UTC)
 * I meant, if one assumes that ruǯ- is borrowed from Zan, then it kinda fits. კვარია (talk) 09:16, 6 December 2022 (UTC)