Talk:արտալայ


 * What is this word's precise definition and which Turkish word is being quoted here? I can't find that Turkish word and don't even know where to begin. This is being connected to . კვარია (talk) 13:49, 16 June 2022 (UTC)


 * , please create dialectal based on . I will handle the etymology. Vahag (talk) 22:57, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
 * here you are: . It was a bit confusing to be honest. Dohqo (talk) 05:52, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
 * the Turkish word is . Its origin is unknown, but I think or  can solve it by original research taking into account the new data I give here: (1) the meanings of, , (2)  see here, (3) Armenian-script , whence dialectal , , (4) dialectal  (see DS), (5)  (see ).
 * So far two possibilities have been suggested: derivation from or . Vahag (talk) 16:11, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Although the hypothesis makes sense semantically, the morphology looks weird. This looks suspiciously Mongolic to me. On the other hand, anything inexplicable looks Mongolic to me, so... Remind me in 3 months time, if it's still unsolved. On another thought, if attested in pre-thirteenth century Armenian, the Mongolic borrowing is unlikely. Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 18:54, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
 * I tried to differentiate bell and meat related senses according to Tietze's view but, as a hunch, I think they might be related if both are of Turkic origin. It's not found in the usual reference sources, only Kubbealtı records it as halk ağzı and with the meaning bell. Judging by, the geographic range of it also seems to be restricted. It could be a later development, but then how could it be recorded in Armenian, in the 12th century? Maybe we should rethink the borrowing direction. Dohqo (talk) 15:48, 19 June 2022 (UTC)