Talk:իշղար


 * Compare 🇨🇬,, .--Calak (talk) 19:56, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
 * , you just solved another mystery. I can't believe no one bothered to check the Persian word for "badger" so far. I wonder how we can explain the initial in Armenian. That's the only thing keeping me from putting this down as direct Persian borrowing. --Vahag (talk) 14:42, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Well, This should be something like 🇨🇬 and . It is common to add a vowel to break consonant clusters in Persian. So we can expect an unattested išğar beside ašğar.--Calak (talk) 14:58, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Could be. But if the Armenian is indeed a literary coinage, then it would not be from an unattested non-standard form. --Vahag (talk) 15:04, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Umm if it is a literary coinage it can be from a misreading. Confusing unwritten sounds of a language you know more in written than in spoken form is easy. Fay Freak (talk) 15:18, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
 * The suspected coiner is Norayr de Byzance, a genius Armenian philologist. I doubt he would make a mistake. And I don't know why he would turn to Persian for coinage. He was born in Constantinople and lived in Venice, Paris and Stockholm. --Vahag (talk) 18:25, 8 August 2018 (UTC)


 * I think it is cognate with 🇨🇬. Compare 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬 and 🇨🇬.--Calak (talk) 12:37, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
 * , could be. Or the "badger" word was contaminated with the "jackal" word. Anyway, that discussion belongs in the etymology of the Persian entry, not the uncertain Armenian cognate. --Vahag (talk) 13:08, 9 August 2018 (UTC)