Talk:մշուշ

Compare Kurdish, Zazaki miž "fog".--Calak (talk) 11:57, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
 * , that comparison has already been made by J̌ahukyan, but rejected by Martirosyan. See and Martirosyan 2010, page 472. --Vahag (talk) 13:44, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
 * The 🇨🇬 compared by Ačaṙyan looks like a borrowing from that Kurdish word. --Vahag (talk) 14:05, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes, can you check it in Napiorkowska book?--Calak (talk) 14:07, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
 * She agrees with us. --Vahag (talk) 14:28, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

How can we explain Arm u from OIr. mayga- (> MIr. mēg)?--Calak (talk) 20:05, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
 * I suppose you are referring to u in . It is recorded only in the dialect of Bitlis and as in Kharberd. It is more common in the form, recorded in several Western Armenian dialects. I am inclined to explain both forms as borrowings from Kurdish ,  and Zazaki . Is the Kurdish u regular from OIr. ay? Also aren't the Iranian u ~ i forms better explained from PIE *h₃mígʰ-s in ? Also pinging.
 * If nevertheless an inner-Armenian explanation is sought, I would offer two tentative solutions: (1) a back-formation from, (2) influence of and . --Vahag (talk) 08:11, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Compare Kurdish muj (from OIr. mayga-, whence OArm. mēg) with NK. tûj (from OIr. tayga-, whence OArm. tēg). Kurdish mij should be from weak root of mai̯ga- (i.e. miga-).--Calak (talk) 08:42, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Then I am ready to declare /  a Kurdish borrowing. Apart from phonetic considerations, let us note that in Armenian dialects the word is confined to Kurdish-influenced areas. The borrowing of the same into 🇨🇬 and dialectal 🇨🇬 (Van, Arčeš) is also notable. Now I wonder if the city name  is related. Folk etymology connects it with, because Mush Plain is often covered in fog. --Vahag (talk) 09:30, 19 April 2019 (UTC)