Talk:պորտ

, is the derivation of Aramaic "navel" from the prt root as Jastrow implies reasonable? CAL does not seem to accept it. --Vahag (talk) 14:26, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Yeah. can be compared with 🇨🇬, and the connection to 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬 is easy to see. 🇨🇬, cognate to 🇨🇬, seems to be related, also 🇨🇬 (Arabic  stems from Proto-Semitic *s and š while ś yields, but Aramaic  stems from *s and *ś (also  if from *ś, but this is more Hebrew), while *š is kept . Aramaic  can be from Proto-Semitic *ṯ and *t, Hebrew  is from *t because *ṯ yields Hebrew ).
 * But I see the vowels given for the Aramaic do not fit . It fits more 🇨🇬 that allegedly means “excrements”, “dung“, but based on 🇨🇬 it probably means the interiors of a belly or the bowels, and this is the meaning you need, because 🇨🇬 means “centre” as it means “belly” and “interior”. Fay Freak (talk) 15:13, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
 * , thanks, I'll get back to this later. and  also look similar to this family. --Vahag (talk) 17:03, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Now is a suspicious word to say the least. It looks like borrowed from the Arabic plural . You have  as “forming adjectives”. Maybe  is back-formed. Fay Freak (talk) 17:10, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
 * These are interesting ideas, but the formal problems are great. The Semitic p, t and ṯ should have given, and .  has a collective meaning which I had not added. The vowels are not regular, as you said. Also, Arabic borrowings in the 5th century are impossible. For  I was thinking an Iranian mediation. --Vahag (talk) 10:52, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Though the likelihood cannot be great, where does the dogma come from that Arabic borrowings in the 5th century are impossible? There were groups of Arabs not only at the southern border of the Byzantine Empire but already southeast Anatolia, albeit minorities. From Arabic criminal activities in the Byzantine Empire the Arabic word for the thief  has been collected, and I remind you of again. I note that there were even Yemenites in Syria; it’s where they collected the word, still peculiar to Yemen (and they brought it to Spain because the population of Al-Andalus was largely composed of emigrated Yemenite L2 speakers, which is the cause of many Andalusi peculiarities, but nothing of their languages alone is left). I think even 🇨🇬 borrowings into Armenian were possible, though perhaps there is no trace, as even for Arabic we can see only few relations with the available material. Fay Freak (talk) 12:56, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
 * , see Hübschmann for Arabic borrowings. Since the Arabs first appeared in Armenia during the conquests of the 7th century, it is logical to expect that earlier borrowings are unlikely, unless we are dealing with an экзотизм connected with Arabs, such as the words for "to cheat" or "thief". I remind you that the Armenian homeland is in the Armenian Highlands, which barely touches on the territories where Arabs roamed. --Vahag (talk) 14:31, 8 June 2019 (UTC)