Talk:أشهد أن عليا ولي الله

RFD discussion: October 2020–June 2022
Arabic. SOP --50.60.48.28 05:13, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

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449 days, not a single comment. &mdash; Fytcha〈 T | L | C 〉 19:26, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure what the CFI says about phrases like this. It *feels* to me like the basic phrase ought to be present because of its ubiquity, but surprisingly it's not; instead we have the fuller version . Per Wikipedia, the longer version comes in several variants, e.g. with  inserted in the middle, and of course the Shiite variant comes with  (which switches to the version in the title when  is added). I'm trying to find equivalents in other contexts. We don't have any part of the Nicene Creed (credo in unum deum, etc.), but it could be argued this does not play the same sort of role in Catholicism that the Shahada does in Islam. We do have, also translated into many languages, likewise , and of course the whole phrasebook project. So I don't know the answer, but I'd suggest that if we do include parts of the Shahada, it should be short parts separately, without the . Benwing2 (talk) 19:48, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
 * For that matter, we even have as well as  (in English and also Latin). Benwing2 (talk) 19:52, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

I believe that the article is not very significant, yet it does not hurt to leave. If the article did not exist, people could still review each single word or build an analogy from similar phrases. --Mahmudmasri (talk) 18:59, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

RFD-no consensus. &mdash; Fytcha〈 T | L | C 〉 17:25, 13 June 2022 (UTC)