Talk:أشهد أن لا إله إلا الله

RFD discussion: January–March 2020
SOP —37.124.121.153 20:08, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. Why would this be deleted? It’s an extremely common Arabic phrase. — LissanX (talk) 21:01, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. HeliosX (talk) 22:48, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Is there any actual reason, or are we just doing things arbitrarily? — LissanX (talk) 00:34, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete: This wouldn't pass in English, it shouldn't pass in Arabic., please stop adding these. -- 00:40, 25 January 2020 (UTC)


 * It's not obvious to me that it wouldn't pass in English. Many entries in Category:English phrases seem like SOP to me. For example:
 * a woman without a man is like a fish without a bicycle
 * abandon hope all ye who enter here
 * Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve
 * all rights reserved
 * be careful what you wish for
 * camel through the eye of a needle
 * comedy equals tragedy plus time
 * correct me if I'm wrong
 * don't give up your day job
 * don't try this at home
 * and so on. Likewise, most Category:English proverbs seem to be SOP, like ignorance is bliss or good things come to those who wait. Do all of these need to be deleted? --Lvovmauro (talk) 15:10, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
 * They need to be considered and argued on a case-by-case basis. You can tell a friend, “don’t give up your day job”, knowing full well they survive on gigs as a waiter and don’t have a day job, so IMO this is not a good example of a SOP. It may be the end of a beautiful friendship, though. In any case, correct me if I’m wrong, the fact that some entries we have are SOP (and thus should not be included) does not seem a valid argument for keeping even more SOP entries. --Lambiam 08:04, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Similar Arabic entries have been around for over a decade, for example لا إله إلا الله محمد رسول الله. — LissanX (talk) 03:12, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
 * It may have flown under the radar. Regardless, as I said above, such entries need to be considered and argued on a case-by-case basis. I see a clear argument for keeping our entry for the Arabic takbir (which, by the way, has room for improvement), but that is based on the usage other than in praying or the beginning of the adhan; see Wikipedia’s page.  --Lambiam 12:04, 1 February 2020 (UTC)


 * RFD-deleted. —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 19:46, 22 March 2020 (UTC)