Talk:تاس

All my sources say Arabic is from Persian  and none of them mention Persian. What is the status of the latter? Are there any etymological sources on it? --Vahag (talk) 08:11, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

Some sources are even inclined to the native origin of Arabic, e.g. Nişanyan from the root ṭws. In that case Persian is a borrowing. --Vahag (talk) 08:35, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

See also Lokotsch, § 2044. --Vahag (talk) 12:05, 16 March 2014 (UTC)


 * My sources say the Arabic word is from Persian tās because of the presence of the form (with ) in Persian beside  (with originally Arabic letter ), but evidence for the "Persian < Arabic < Middle Persian" theory is much more strong, in fact the  form is quite rare, and -st > -s change is typical of Arabic only. --Z 14:33, 16 March 2014 (UTC)


 * I too think that "Persian < Arabic < Middle Persian" makes most sense and that the descendants should be moved. --Vahag (talk) 15:16, 16 March 2014 (UTC)


 * I moved the descendants to Arabic . The Persian section of that page needs cleaning up. --Vahag (talk) 18:11, 28 March 2014 (UTC)