Talk:قنبيل


 * Thanks for the ping. I'm becoming more familiar with borrowings from Arabic / Persian → . It's also helpful to learn more about borrowings from → Arabic / Persian. The intermediate languages are important. However, there's less information about them compared to Sanskrit or Hindi. Here's an overview of the intermediate stages:


 * c. 500 BCE – 500 CE, (see AP:Middle Indo-Aryan Swadesh lists)
 * c. 500 CE – 1200 CE,
 * c. 1200 CE onwards, CAT:Old Hindi language, CAT:Old Gujarati language, CAT:Old Marathi language, etc (see AP:Early New Indo-Aryan Swadesh lists)


 * After the during 712–740,  was a frontier province of the  and  from its conquest in 711   by  until the mid-ninth century (see ). Therefore, if Arabic borrowed directly  without a Persian intermediary, it may have happened during the 700s . That would leave enough time for the word to reach  by 990 CE. The group of languages spoken in the  during the 700s  was . Wiktionary does not have much coverage of  yet, and there is a discussion about how Wiktionary should cover  and  at Category talk:Prakrit languages. If this entry and the descendants at  are affected by that discussion, they can be updated.


 * The descendant of  was also written as . However, the written form tends to be more conservative compared to the hypothesised spoken form. The spoken form eventually was eventually reflected in writing as,  by 1200 . The  language that would have been spoken in  during the 700s  would have been CAT:Vracada Apabhramsa language, which is the ancestor of CAT:Sindhi language. The Sindhi descendant of  is:
 * The CAT:Punjabi language descendant is
 * The CAT:Hindustani languages descendant is
 * Hindustani:
 * So for the etymology of this term (until a policy is decided upon regarding and ), I would suggest:
 * Borrowed from, from , from . Compare later , , 🇨🇬 / , 🇨🇬 / , 🇨🇬 / . Kutchkutch (talk) 09:31, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
 * The CAT:Hindustani languages descendant is
 * Hindustani:
 * So for the etymology of this term (until a policy is decided upon regarding and ), I would suggest:
 * Borrowed from, from , from . Compare later , , 🇨🇬 / , 🇨🇬 / , 🇨🇬 / . Kutchkutch (talk) 09:31, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
 * So for the etymology of this term (until a policy is decided upon regarding and ), I would suggest:
 * Borrowed from, from , from . Compare later , , 🇨🇬 / , 🇨🇬 / , 🇨🇬 / . Kutchkutch (talk) 09:31, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
 * So for the etymology of this term (until a policy is decided upon regarding and ), I would suggest:
 * Borrowed from, from , from . Compare later , , 🇨🇬 / , 🇨🇬 / , 🇨🇬 / . Kutchkutch (talk) 09:31, 16 January 2021 (UTC)