Talk:کلک

Etymology
@Fay Freak kilk as "pen" is attested in Rudaki and Ferdowsi. I don't have access to the source, but it clearly cannot be from Hindustani as defined on Wiktionary simply based on timing.--Saranamd (talk) 17:23, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I also was in disbelief. ? Fay Freak (talk) 03:15, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
 * @Fay Freak I just don't see it because kilkīn is attested much more late. This source cites Monchi-Zadeh 1990 and connects kilk to Kurdish words for "finger," which makes much more sense.--Saranamd (talk) 07:26, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Monchi-Zadeh has made “such a connection”, but appears to have specifically rejected it. He says in the footnote to that  does not belong to  (a seemingly Northwestern Iranian borrowing), deriving it from Hindi, but claims that  and  /  belong together, while at the same time in the maintext claiming that  is the same as, which are two mutually exclusive statements unless  is not the same as ; a contradiction that is plausible since he died before having a final look upon his last work. Please edit the entry as you see fit. I note that Monchi-Zadeh 1990 can be viewed by you even if you don’t have institutional access, since multiple people uploaded it on . Fay Freak (talk) 09:21, 7 June 2024 (UTC)