Talk:जलेबी

Etymology
Hobson-Jobson claims this derives from a different Arabic word:. I think this is, with zayin and not jeem as in the current word, but I don't know the tashkil. 70.172.194.25 04:23, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I don’t know how the Arabic term, which I hear  as well as  from YouTube (with reduction of the first vowel), would not be itself from Hindustani. There isn’t even a root . Since this is also a Gulf dish, though also a Levantine one, and there are all those Indians in the Gulf, would easily believe the same.
 * But it is used already in (instantly found in various editions on Google Books), which however only corroborates Indian origin (regard Wikipedia about that book under the heading “Possible Indian influence”).
 * from presents a more original form  which is more obviously a foreign formation., to affirm the šadda in the ـَة form that I have heard, only recorded , also from Middle Arabic sources. We can see the distortion as an outcome of the great age of the word.
 * So I have to assent to ’s proposal of plus a well-known Persian or Hindustani suffix; or more exactly a Śaurasenī Apabhraṃśa  if not just Classical Persian  origin. Fay Freak (talk) 12:06, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for researching this. I just saw that page 11 of this document agrees with the etymology Chuck Entz added, and explains that the source I mentioned above likely had it wrong. But on the other hand, they claim the Arabic word might be completely unrelated, from . 70.172.194.25 14:34, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Reading it now. Is “perhaps the meaning of the Persian word receded from memory” an euphemism for “they have made the Persian etymon up”? “Lattice” is 🇨🇬,, 🇨🇬, from there probably irrelevantly rare 🇨🇬. Although the author possibly was influenced by thinking about 🇨🇬 from / , which is not less remote. We need to ask our Indian guys what the second part would be. Fay Freak (talk) 15:32, 26 April 2022 (UTC); “cross” added 16:01, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Nah, it can be presumed like I have suspected, I haven’t even read this pleasure writing in Repast to the end and have already pinpointed weakness in his interpretations of the synonyms  and, while both casting better derivation for them and sourcing the origin of from . He wasn’t even good at transcribing the Persian terms either. Fay Freak (talk) 18:56, 26 April 2022 (UTC)