Talk:पासून

Hi, just a simple question: what does (in the quotation) mean? I know means hospital, is the added ending an inflection? —Aryaman (मुझसे बात करो) 02:47, 27 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi, thanks for asking and your interest in Marathi!
 * -तील is an ordinary postposition that means 'in' or 'inside' so -तील itself is not inflection/declension, but the आ between रुग्णालय and तील is the oblique case marker for masculine/neuter words with a stem-final consonant.
 * Curiously, तील does not appear as a lemma in dictionaries despite being common in formal contexts. Dhongde & Wali use the gloss "PP ‘in’ or ‘inside’" when it appears in an example. So does it deserve an entry?
 * So the translation of the phrase is "The medical (store) in/inside Kalva Medical Hospital closed since April". The tricky thing about this translation is that since it's a headline or caption it omitted the crucial word स्टोअर, and it's obviously not a complete sentence since it lacks a verb.
 * पासून also means 'from', and like तील it's an ordinary postposition.
 * For comparison, the locative case is formed with त and the ablative case is formed with हून/ऊन. The locative case marker त and ablative case marker हून/ऊन act very similar to ordinary postpositions so they may not truly be case markers.

On a separate note, Turner mentions the postposition and पास (which is perhaps obsolete) instead of पासून, but Tulpule says the Old Marathi ancestors of पासून are derived from  so Turner's entry is still useful. Perhaps पासून is the obsolete पास + हून/ऊन mentioned above. DSAL Date supports this: [सं. पार्श्व; प्रा. पास + हून, ऊन प्रत्यय]

Kutchkutch (talk) 03:36, 27 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Hmm, I did find a postposition, but nothing for . Could it be two postpositions affixed to the word? My knowledge is too weak to help. —Aryaman (मुझसे बात करो) 13:31, 27 October 2017 (UTC)


 * You're definitely correct in the first case. I mixed up -त with आत above. -त is the postposition/case marker and आत is the adverb. The postposition/case marker is comparable to के अंदर and the adverb is comparable to अंदर.
 * I think you're also correct the second case. Just like DSAL Date suggests पासून = पास + हून/ऊन, it seems plausible that तील = त + ईल. The adjectives and  appear to have -ईल.  is a postposition that means next or ahead and is comparable to के आगे.  is a postposition that means next or ahead and is comparable to के पीछे. For, DSAL Date says compare Ardhamagadhi पुरिल्ल. For , DSAL Tulpule says  is its Old Marathi ancestor and DSAL Turner's 'mārga 10071' entry mentions 'Pk. maggilla'. So it appears -ईल is -इल in Old Marathi and  in Prakrit.
 * Dhongde & Wali say ईल/एल is a V>ADJ suffix so the verb becomes the adjective . Perhaps this is the same suffix applied to postpositions. Kutchkutch (talk) 21:53, 27 October 2017 (UTC)