Talk:নএ

RFD discussion: June 2019–March 2020
This page should deleted forthwith. The Bengali word for nine is, and there is no such word as নএ in the language. The one who had created this page was not careful about the orthography, and had misspelt নয় as this wrong spelling. It is a shame that this wrong word has been here for so long. —Lbdñkundefined, 15:58, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Just out of curiosity, how was this spelled before the letter was invented? Chuck Entz (talk) 01:30, 30 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Several sources, including the and, give নয as Bengali for “nine”. I cannot judge if this is sloppiness or reflects older orthography. It does not help that Google search conflates য and য়.  --Lambiam 06:31, 30 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Those two speculated forms DO NOT represent any alternative, dialectal or older forms of the word নয়. Bengali নয় evolved somewhat as follows from its earlier stages (the orthography of Modern Eastern Nāgarī being shown for all, for convenience):


 * Modern Bengali nôe (নয়) < Old Bengali naya (নয়) < Māgadhī Prakit naä (নঅ) < Old Indo-Aryan *náva (নৱ). Lbdñk (talk) 20:58, 30 June 2019 (UTC)
 * When is this going to be deleted ? Has no administrator any bothering about this ? Lbdñk (talk) 07:36, 6 July 2019 (UTC)


 * RFD-deleted. —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 06:13, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

RFV discussion: July 2019–April 2020
See edit history comments, was requested for speedy deletion. as deletion requester. - TheDaveRoss  12:39, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Also directing this at Lambiam, the Hungarian and Lithuanian entries may have been taken on from the English entry as it sometimes can happen and, more importantly, both entries have been deleted already. This hints at the orthography actually being false.
 * Directing this as well at Chuck Entz, before the addition of the letter "য়" at the end of the 19th century, as stated in Bengali alphabet, the letter "জ" ("j") was used word-initially for [dʒ] and in any other position for [j] because this sound apparently did not occur in the former position. The letter "এ" was not assigned to [j] even beforehand. There are no attestations available for this erroneous orthography. HeliosX (talk) 16:45, 22 January 2020 (UTC)


 * If I have understood the article correctly, নএ is mentioned there as being Sylheti for 9, written using the Bengali–Assamese script. I suppose this is the source of the confusion. (We do have an entry for the Sylheti term in the Sylheti Nagri script: .) Other than that one occurrence, the term is not mentioned on the Bengali Wiktionary or Wikipedia, which makes it very unlikely that this is used in Bengali. But now that there is an RfV box slapped on the entry, the risk that someone will be misled is low, so we may as well let verification run its course.  --Lambiam 18:12, 22 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Being a native Bengali speaker, I can confirm that the general consensus is that the term নএ (noe) is not the Bengali cardinal for 9, but it is the Sylheti cardinal for 9, as mentioned by Lambiam. The Bengali cardinal for 9 is নয় (nôy). Furthermore, the post-reform Bengali letter "য়" [e̯ɔ~jɔ] (yô) sounds different from the letter "য" [dʒ] (jô). I second Lbdñk in mentioning that নএ does not represent any alternative, dialectal or older forms of the word নয় and would like to request deletion of the same. --Intellectual Bookworm 17:34, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Closed; entry no longer exists. &mdash; surjection &lang;??&rang; 16:18, 19 April 2020 (UTC)