Talk:การดื่มสุรา

RFD discussion: March–April 2016
Sum of parts --YURi (talk) 15:35, 22 March 2016 (UTC)


 * I was surprised when I discovered that created this one. -- Romanophile  ♞ (contributions) 15:51, 22 March 2016 (UTC)


 * It's not so straightforward as it seems at first glance. The verb may be included in some dictionaries, just like Chinese  and  is a noun forming prefix. 喝酒 may be considered some of parts by some and idiomatic by others. In some languages it's common to add objects when verbs are used on the their own. I argued my point in the  discussion above. For example, in Chinese, when someone wants to say "he talks" (a generic phrase), a phrase is used, literally "he talks speech". (It's easier for me to use Chinese, as my Thai is not so great but there are many similarities.) I am not voting on this term, just want to clarify. --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 04:23, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

ดื่มสุรา is a phrase, not a verb, and is not idiomatic. There are numerous alternative phrases, such as ดื่มเหล้า, กินเหล้า, กินสุรา, ก๊งเหล้า, ก๊งสุรา, บริโภคสุรา, บริโภคเหล้า, เสวยเหล้า, เสวยสุรา, เสวยน้ำจันท์, เสพสุรา, รับประทานสุรา, รับประทานเหล้า, ร่ำสุรา, แดกเหล้า, แดกสุรา, ซดเหล้า, ซดสุรา, etc. All these means the same, "to drink liquor". But none of them is qualified enough to be included, in my opinion. They are just sums of parts, indeed. --YURi (talk) 14:58, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

Moreover, if ดื่มสุรา (to drink liquor) can be included, other similar phrases might be included too, like ดื่มน้ำ (to drink water), ดื่มน้ำส้ม (to drink orange juice), ดื่มโคล่า (to drink cola), ดื่มน้ำมะนาว (to drink lemonade), ดื่มเบียร์ (to drink beer), ดื่มคอกเทล (to drink cocktail), ดื่มไวน์ (to drink wine), ดื่มบรั่นดี (to drink brandy), and so on and so forth. But I don't think any of them should be included. --YURi (talk) 15:07, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete. Compelling argument, and really unnecessary to keep in the dictionary. —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 21:18, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
 * The "pink car" argument of Mglovesfun aka Renard Migrant won't always work. SoP in one language is not necessarily SoP in another. E.g. Chinese, or Thai . As for ths particular term, I haven't found a compelling argument to keep, so won't object if it's deleted. --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 04:09, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
 * is completely different from การดื่มสุรา. In Thai grammar, such a word as is called  (not sure how to translate this into English, may be "doublet" ?). But การดื่มสุรา is purely a sum of parts. --YURi (talk) 19:12, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
 * I suggest deletion. It is not even a compound word, or idiomic phrase. It is just words putting together, การดื่ม + สุรา. --Octahedron80 (talk) 04:53, 12 April 2016 (UTC)


 * 'RFD failed. —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 18:03, 29 April 2016 (UTC)