Talk:พีช

Thanks for fixing the Thai entries.

I have some objection to the last edit. I know that young Thai people are very capable of pronouncing foreign sounds but I have heard many Thai people (including younger people) quite unable to pronounce final -f, -s, ch, -l, etc. even when they tried hard to speak English, which causes misunderstanding, let alone when using loanwords in Thai. This confirms what some books about Thai say (many people can but not all). So, in my opinion, we should leave the alternative pronunciation /píit/ as well, that's what some older style dictionaries do. Also. --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 11:47, 26 February 2017 (UTC)


 * FYI The older people call this ท้อ, same word for "to be downhearted". So newer people start to call พีช instead. This situation shows that the older people will not say พีช as /พี้ด/ as well. --Octahedron80 (talk) 11:54, 26 February 2017 (UTC)


 * I disagree. Many fruit sellers know names of fruits in English but they don't necessarily pronounce them correctly, if saying /píit/ is considered "wrong" in Thai. Well, we had a tour guide in Phuket who could speak English but would say waterfawn (waterfall), Andaman Embrate (Andaman Embrace - name of the hotel), beat for "beach", etc., etc. He sort of managed to say "อิสราเอล" as /ʔis˨˩.räː˧.ʔeːl˧/, though - but I asked him because I was curious. Taxi drivers always had trouble saying these finals, only some young people managed a better pronunciation. As I said, even Paiboon dictionaries mention the new trend but they still use traditional transliterations in many cases. --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 12:10, 26 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Any way, It won't be a pain to state traditional reading. But it must have mai tho on it. --Octahedron80 (talk) 12:14, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you! --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 12:20, 26 February 2017 (UTC)