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Hi. I was wondering where you got the orthography for Sikkimese from - I didn't seem to have much luck finding material for written Sikkimese online. Thanks! Wyang (talk) 07:04, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Repinging in case the first one didn't work. Also other entries in Category:Sikkimese lemmas. Wyang (talk) 00:06, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Omniglot has a page for it . Some other search terms to try are "Bhutia" and "Denzongpa". There's a few Sikkimese dictionaries in print, and maybe some online? Ugen Lopsang Sherpa, the author of "Prajna Dictionary" (a English-Sikkimese-Nepali-Sherpa-Tibetan dictionary) seems to have a Facebook, he may have some materials. —Aryaman (मुझसे बात करो) 02:16, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
 * The only dictionary I could find at present is Pintso Bhutia's Bhutia-English Dictionary, but its spelling is basically Classical Tibetan-based, and “five” is written as (pg. 37), not  (pg. 35). The native name for Sikkimese on the Omniglot page is also in Classical Tibetan:  (now created). With regard to Mr. Sherpa, as far as I can see, his Tibetan-script posts on Facebook are in Classical Tibetan. There is even this post which has the line
 * Could you please let us know where you found the spelling? If it cannot be verified, it may have to be deleted. Wyang (talk) 10:51, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Great find! I found at least three more dictionaries in the Sikkim state government's budget records. They all seem to be only in print however. And about the Facebook, I was wondering about that as well. Since Sikkimese is no doubt an LDL, the one dictionary should be a valid source, right? —Aryaman (मुझसे बात करो) 11:53, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Yeah I agree it is an LDL. So, as long as the word can be found in some dictionary... Wyang (talk) 11:56, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I found that spelling here. I am not familiar with the site, so I don't vouch for it. —Stephen (Talk) 16:56, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Stephen, that site is a mirror of Wiktionary. Please try to check this before linking. —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 17:00, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I don't know how you recognized that. It did not look like Wiktionary to me. Just to be sure, I looked at it again, and I saw nothing there that suggested Wiktionary to me. If you're certain it is a mirror of Wiktionary, then all I can say is that in the future you should avoid clicking on any links that I offer. Another site uses for 5, but gives the pronunciation as "Nga". —Stephen (Talk) 17:23, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
 * If you look at the Tibetan section on that site, it has the same pronunciation template as . —Aryaman (मुझसे बात करो) 22:26, 18 August 2017 (UTC)
 * , apparently we are not looking at the same thing. I see:
 * Tibetan - Pronunciation
 * Ü-Tsang
 * (Lhasa) IPA(key): /ŋa¹³/
 * (Spiti) IPA(key): /ŋá/
 * Khams
 * (Batang) IPA(key): /ŋa²³¹/
 * (Dege) IPA(key): /ŋa¹³/
 * Amdo
 * (Zeku) IPA(key): /ŋa/
 * (Bla-Brang) IPA(key): /ŋa/
 * I don't see anything like that in . —Stephen (Talk) 22:37, 18 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Perhaps I wasn't clear, if you go to the Tibetan section of this entry and expand the pronunciation section, it is the exact same as the one on that site. —Aryaman (मुझसे बात करो) 22:56, 18 August 2017 (UTC)
 * , that's not what I see. In my previous comment, I included the pronunciation section from that site, all ten lines of it. The following is the pronunciation section from this entry, only eight lines, and very different:
 * Pronunciation
 * Old Tibetan: /*ŋa/
 * Lhasa: /ŋa˩˧/
 * Batang: /ŋa˨˧˩/
 * Dêgê: /ŋa˩˧/
 * Zêkog: /ŋa/
 * Bla-Brang: /ŋa/
 * Lahuli–Spiti: /ŋá/
 * Maybe it has something to do with our browsers or devices. I only use Firefox and a Microsoft-based laptop. I never use a smartphone or a tablet on the internet. I really don't see how that could cause the differences between what you describe and what I see, but it's all I can think of. —Stephen (Talk) 03:05, 19 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Oh, I found some more text from our entry. It was collapsed for some reason. I have not seen a semi-collapsed pronunciation section on Wiktionary before this. Nevertheless, that's 21 lines from our entry vs. 10 lines from the other site. —Stephen (Talk) 03:14, 19 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Old Tibetan:
 * IPA(key): /*ŋa/ (reconstructed)
 * Ü-Tsang
 * Tibetan Pinyin: ngav
 * (Lhasa) IPA(key): /ŋa˩˧/
 * Khams
 * (Batang) IPA(key): /ŋa˨˧˩/
 * (Dêgê) IPA(key): /ŋa˩˧/
 * Amdo
 * (Zêkog) IPA(key): /ŋa/
 * (Bla-Brang) IPA(key): /ŋa/
 * Lahuli–Spiti
 * (Spiti) IPA(key): /ŋá/
 * That's what I meant :) Chinese, Korean, Japanese, and Sanskrit all use collapsed pronunciation templates btw. —Aryaman (मुझसे बात करो) 17:27, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
 * What that site has archived is our old revision of this word in 2016; see . Wyang (talk) 08:46, 21 August 2017 (UTC)
 * What that site has archived is our old revision of this word in 2016; see . Wyang (talk) 08:46, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

RFV discussion: August–October 2017

 * See Category talk:Sikkimese lemmas.