Talk:თოკი

, this is supposed to be the parent of the synonymous 🇨🇬. But does it have a native Kartvelian explanation? Compare 🇨🇬. If not, I prefer to derive all from 🇨🇬. --Vahag (talk) 21:36, 19 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Noone did this reconstruction, but assuming, not even 🇨🇬 would have to be assumed to have been borrowed from 🇨🇬, or indeed the parallel forms of 🇨🇬. According to Kiria, there's also 🇨🇬 (vocalism from *u, cf. ); I also found 🇨🇬 (which doesn't help because traditional sources doesn't comment on vocalisms like that). I don't know why Klimov doesn't comment on 🇨🇬 (assuming he was still alive when that part was being written). Klimov says compare Armenian, so what's that side of the story? კვარია (talk) 22:17, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
 * The Armenian is borrowed from Georgian, according to Acharyan. That is entirely possible, but I still wonder if 🇨🇬 is connected. Its meaning "rope, string" is found only in Armenian sources, so perhaps is influenced by Armenian and is not original., do you find the sense "rope" of the Kurdish reliable? Vahag (talk) 19:41, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Not sure if it's any reassurance, but there's at least one other case where a very obvious and easy new root was missed: cf. Klimov-Xalilov, page 461. Klimov could've claimed it right there and then. Instead it went unnoticed until 2009. კვარია (talk) 19:42, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I know Klimov-Xalilov is not a good work. It sent us searching for a non-existent Armenian word at User_talk:Vahagn_Petrosyan/Archive_8. See now Etimologiuri dziebani 10, 2013, page 17 for a possible etymology of . Vahag (talk) 19:58, 20 April 2022 (UTC)