Talk:წამალი


 * For 🇨🇬 Kiria-Chukhua reconstruct 🇨🇬, deriving 🇨🇬 here as well. There's also (ACTUALLY! Tandilava isn't sure what it refers to, and Kiria-Chukhua copied the definition after him. Can you look it up in your new Laz dictionary? Marr glosses Laz as "pigweed" which is obviously, which makes more sense obviously).

Also obviously l ~ n is strange კვარია (talk) 18:34, 10 February 2022 (UTC)


 * my shiny new dictionary has, also called , . I was interested in this word because of 🇨🇬, present also in the dialects with various forms and meanings. They are supposedly from Kartvelian. Vahag (talk) 19:54, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes, I have all of these forms in Bukaklishi as well but he doesn't give an actual definition and just says "type of plant". Which forms are derived from Georgian? კვარია (talk) 20:08, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
 * I meant all the Armenian forms are from Kartvelian:, , dialectal . I don't know anything about the relationship between the Kartvelian words. Vahag (talk) 20:28, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
 * I see. Is this in Acharyan or original research? The words look similar indeed კვარია (talk) 20:33, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
 * It is Acharyan. He is certainly correct. The words are identical in form ( is probably pronounced /dz/ here) and meaning. Since our words are late and are found only in parts of Armenia close to Georgia (Khotorjur, Hamshen, Yerevan, Gazakh), they are borrowed from you. Vahag (talk) 20:37, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
 * If it's with dz then makes sense. Georgian-Zan isn't secure but I could say "compare them".  imho can't be related here კვარია (talk) 20:49, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
 * OK, thanks. Vahag (talk) 20:51, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Well.. According to Orbeliani is Armenian. When is your word is first attested? Because he mentioned Armenian  (~ ) კვარია (talk) 21:00, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
 * It is attested since the 12th century, which for us is considered late. Orbeliani cannot judge a borrowing that happened centuries ago. I assure you this is a Georgian word. The shape is too barbarous for us :) Vahag (talk) 21:34, 10 February 2022 (UTC)