Talk:ᏎᎴᏀ

RFV discussion: June–July 2015
Cherokee. , do you know any places to cite this? —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 09:34, 4 June 2015 (UTC)


 * In my opinion, transliterations are different from the regular lexicon of a language. If a name (for example) exists in a language that does not use the Roman alphabet, such as Russian, and if it is the sort of word that we normally would transliterate rather than translate (Акакий being a man’s given name), and if Акакий is citable in Russian literature but not yet in English (being a rather uncommon name), then the usual and reasonable transliteration(s) of Акакий should be considered to exist (in theory) in English, German, Spanish, etc. That is, a transliteration should only need to be cited in the source language (Russian in this case), and the transliteration should only need to be shown to be reasonable for the target language.
 * Although Cherokee has its own alphabet, there is very little literature printed in the language, and since Cherokee is a polysynthetic language, the words change in dramatic ways, so that almost no Cherokee words from a given text can be cited unless the editor knows the Cherokee language well enough to reduce the words to Cherokee lemmas. As far as I am concerned ᏎᎴᏀ is the proper Cherokee transliteration, and is correctly treated in Cherokee, of the name Selena which can be cited in English or Spanish. —Stephen (Talk) 22:43, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
 * The problem with that is that you're essentially telling the Wiktionary community to take it on faith that you're right about this term. But Wiktionary doesn't work that way; we have to prove that something is real rather than take it on faith, otherwise we could just as easily trust somebody who (unlike you) doesn't know what they're doing and is awful at Cherokee. —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 07:35, 6 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Right about what term? (There are two terms.) Right about what specifically? —Stephen (Talk) 10:24, 13 June 2015 (UTC)


 * RFV-failed. - -sche (discuss) 19:49, 17 July 2015 (UTC)