Talk:ⲡⲟⲩⲣⲟ

,, , , Hello all, I would like your thoughts on whether we should keep this page alone or merge it with ⲟⲩⲣⲟ. I created this page separately because the Bohairic Coptic vocative form of ⲟⲩⲣⲟ, ⲡⲟⲩⲣⲟ, is a title and proper noun in the same way that English "a king" differs from King. In Coptic, vocative forms of words are created by adding a definite article; ̀Ⲡϭⲟⲓⲥ, Lord and Ⲫⲛⲟⲩϯ, God are both examples of proper nouns, or titles. I would like to discuss the status of titles and proper nouns and whether we should manage on them same page or if we should maintain separate entries. --Aearthrise (Ⲁⲉⲁⲣⲑⲣⲓⲥⲉ) 20:24, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
 * The ping didn't come through unfortunately. It only registers when you use the template and sign with four tildes in the selfsame edit. Pingo ←₰-→  Lingo Bingo Dingo (talk)  11:52, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Some further discussion found here. I myself don’t think we shouldn’t have separate lemmata for forms with a definite article attached. It’s really just a matter of convention, but (1) Wiktionary excludes forms with cliticized definite articles for most languages, so it would be consistent with previous policy here; (2) Coptic dictionaries also keep forms with and without article under one lemma, so it would be consistent with previous Coptic lexicography; (3) the fact that vocatives and titles are considered definite in some languages but not in others is just a function of slightly varying applications of the grammatical feature of definiteness, which often varies by language in exactly which semantic categories it is applied to; this isn’t really a lexicographic difference, but a grammatical one. — Vorziblix (talk · contribs) 20:30, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
 * A possible compromise is to add separate proper noun sections to the affected words and display the definite article in the headword, along with a usage note. ←₰-→ Lingo Bingo Dingo (talk)  13:17, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Sure, I’d support having proper noun sections. I’m sort of ambivalent on the rest, but I wouldn’t object to it. Sounds reasonable enough for now! — Vorziblix (talk · contribs) 19:18, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
 * That is a wonderful idea Lingo Bingo Dingo, thank you for the input! --Aearthrise (Ⲁⲉⲁⲣⲑⲣⲓⲥⲉ)00:50, 24 March 2018 (UTC)</div?