Talk:あっ…（察し）

RFD discussion: May 2020–March 2021
SOP. -- Huhu9001 (talk) 07:12, 7 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Not SOP, as the meaning is decidedly non-obvious from the parts. However, it's also not a lexical item, and the reading a' kakko sasshi is more of a typographical description (kakko = "parenthesis") than anything you'd expect to use in conversation.
 * Delete. ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │Tala við mig 18:04, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
 * What is non-obvious? It is just あっ + verbal noun of 察する, meaning "ah... **realised something**" in English. -- Huhu9001 (talk) 01:06, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
 * The kakko bit in the middle there is rather strange. Also,  has various possible meanings, including "inference, guess, conjecture; empathizing, consideration".  I'd argue that both make this non-obvious.  However, I still don't think that changes the non-lexicality of this phrase.  ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │Tala við mig 16:51, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I remember when they deleted Internet personality, they did not recognize it as a non-SOP just because personality has multiple meanings. kakko just means brackets. You can also write "ah... (realised something)". I still can not see why it is not SOP since this = あっ("ah") + かっこ("brackets") + 察し("realised something"). -- Huhu9001 (talk) 00:58, 9 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep as the creator. Included in Weblio類語辞書 for some reason. (Not the best argument, but I think its inclusion is intruguing at least.) I also have a vague recollection of ~maybe~ hearing it spoken somewhere (a CFI-compliant source), but I don't think I could find it again. —Suzukaze-c◇◇ 00:38, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
 * The same site also has "そういうことだったのか", thus it is not a good example for Wiktionary. -- Huhu9001 (talk) 01:09, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
 * (I found the "somewhere". —Suzukaze-c◇◇ 02:47, 26 May 2020 (UTC))
 * I insist it is SOP, thus finding citations does not help. -- Huhu9001 (talk) 16:54, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
 * This specific way to use parentheses is classified as a part of "淫夢語録", a group of net slang originated from peculiar gay video memes. There are countless other wordings like this. To pronounce （察し） as "kakko sasshi" in real life is regarded too uncool and not proved in any religible sources. If you want to make Wiktionary a unverified gay porn dictionary, post it.--荒巻モロゾフ (talk) 09:39, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Move to 察し. — T AKASUGI Shinji (talk) 04:28, 19 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I've copied the relevant details over as a usex at . , anyone else, please have a look.  If the  entry now captures the important bits, we can dispense with the entry at あっ…（察し） and close this RFD accordingly.  ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │Tala við mig 00:55, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I support this solution. -- Huhu9001 (talk) 02:06, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
 * It’s OK to move, but noun is appropriate, not verb.--荒巻モロゾフ (talk) 11:58, 6 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Striking as deleted. Any further work should happen at the  entry.  ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │Tala við mig 20:15, 11 March 2021 (UTC)