Talk:いくつになっても

いくつになっても
I assume that entries may be nominated here on the grounds that they do not constitute good phrasebook entries. The category boiler describes the phrasebook entries as "Non-idiomatic phrases in Japanese that are used in common situations, and may be useful to language learners or travellers." This phrase meaning "however old one may be" does not seem to be particularly useful to travelers, and it's not bad for language learners but it's about as helpful as most other non-idiomatic phrases. It's about the same as the English phrase "however old one may be" for learners of English.

In my opinion the phrasebook needs more than just one entry's worth of attention, so while we're at it I'd like to mention these others:


 * 争いが収まる for fighting to be settled (useful only to pugnacious travelers)
 * 行き付けの場所 one's favorite place (this is not especially common)
 * 夫に良く仕える be devoted to one's husband (In years I have never once had occasion to say this)
 * 神に仕える serve god (probably covered by other phrases related to religion, and this is not such a common expression)
 * 護衛を付ける provide with a bodyguard (who uses a bodyguard?)
 * 肉が付く gain weight (this is not so common--people actually say 太る)
 * 敵に付く take the side of the enemy (again for the angry travelers)
 * 帳簿に付ける enter in a book (not so common)
 * 帳面に付いている ditto
 * 伝言を頼まれる be given a message for someone (This was only useful before cell phones, and besides that I have never heard this in my life)
 * 値段を高く付ける put a high price on (not so common)
 * 二君に仕えず not serve two masters (not exactly a useful expression, and the register is formal or literary)
 * 箱に収まる be stored in a box (not very common or useful)
 * 明治天皇の代に under the rule of the emperor Meiji (even if you talk about this sort of thing, this was a long time ago)

Haplogy (話) 15:56, 11 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete all. Some of us would say that just being in the phrasebook qualifies an article for deletion. --WikiTiki89 16:24, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Some don't count. The phrasebook was kept by a vote (Where is it now? Shouldn't be too far away). Phrasebook entries are considered for deletion like any other entry - case by case. As for the entry above - delete. --Anatoli (обсудить/вклад) 12:21, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't have a strong opinion on phrasebooks in general. I nominated those because in my opinion they fail the criteria of our phrasebooks.  There are many better phrases, the ones which I did not mention above, which you might find in a dead-wood phrase book.  Greetings or common expressions like お疲れ様でした or 頂きます seem appropriate and I am not proposing that they be deleted.  The ones above, however, are neither useful nor common.   I'd say they'd even impede communication more than help it.  Haplogy (話) 14:55, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Move 行き付けの場所 to 行き付け, as you can say 行き付けのカフェ. Keep 二君に仕えず or move it to 二君に仕える. Delete the rest. — T AKASUGI Shinji (talk) 01:25, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

Deleted all uncontested entries. I leave 行き付けの場所 and 二君に仕えず to our wise friend T AKASUGI Shinji, to deal with as he sees fit. Striking as closed. bd2412 T 16:48, 5 December 2013 (UTC)