Talk:インストゥルメンタル

Metathesis
@Fish bowl Hello, I imagine that I must not be grasping the terminology — may you please help to clear up my misunderstanding? I believe that metathesis means a swapping of letters around in a word — would that not render this term a simple adaptation of the English into Japanese? It seems to me that the sounds are all in their unchanged order, i.e. ins u t u rumentar u. There appear to just be 'U's inserted to form moras as needed. Am I missing something in this understanding? Kiril kovachev (talk・contribs) 21:12, 6 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Personally I always thought that トゥル was an unnatural transcription and perhaps from a misreading as insturmental; tr is a consonant cluster, so there is typically no need to use the conspicuously difficult syllable トゥ(ル) instead of ト(ル). But this is just my personal thought. —Fish bowl (talk) 01:53, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
 * @Fish bowl That's true, I guess it's hard to say exactly, considering トル would be more usual, but at the same time I believe that these days that the Japanese are wising up to the sounds of English, making fewer borrowings like ti → ち and more like てぃ, etc., more closely imitating the heard pronunciation. Anyway, thanks for explaining the thought behind it, Kiril kovachev (talk・contribs) 17:35, 7 September 2023 (UTC)